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- From: brian%jaguar.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill)
- Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
- Date: 29 Aug 92 13:27:09 MDT
- Message-ID: <1992Aug29.132709.5155@hellgate.utah.edu>
- Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
- References: <714913121.20822@minster.york.ac.uk> <64786@cup.portal.com> <1992Aug29.104619.1323@dlpinc00.rn.com> <64910@cup.portal.com>
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- In article <64910@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
- >>I'm curious, what do you mean, "Cut from the same cloth..."
- >
- >[...]
- >
- >Two things:
- >
- >1) NT will be running Windows applications (3.x type) *not* as
- >native NT apps, but will do a similar "windows within NT" trick
- >used by OS/2. That means there will be the same type of compatibility
- >problems with Windows 3.1 executables running under NT as currently
- >exist under OS/2
-
- This is somewhat true... programs that go directly at hardware will have
- problems... of course most Windows programs don't do that.
- This will be more of a problem with DOS programs. So far I've
- not found one 16-bit Windows program that will not run under NT, but
- then I've not tried anything wierd like Norton Backup that plays
- games with the floppy disk drives to "lock" them.
-
- >
- >2) its a *WHOLE NEW OS*. There will be the same type of bugs in
- >NT (and perhaps worse, since OS/2 has gone through several revisions)
- >as now exist in OS/2
- Strange... OS/2 was extremely buggy and unstable in it's early incarnations
- (1.2 was awful!, and I'm told earlier versions were worse).
- I've worked with NT enough already to know it's more stable that 1.2
- was... I guess a miracle has occured! Shall we take this a sign that
- NT has been blessed? :-)
-
- >
- >Finally, it appears to me that the "Windows" in "Windows NT" is
- >purely a marketing move; the only thing Windows NT has in common
- >with Windows 3.1 is they both run on Intel chips and both are made
- >by Microsoft.
-
- Your last paragraph is simply wrong, Windows and Windows NT share
- a huge number of common API calls. More importantly they share
- common API semantics... it's much easier to put Windows on Windows NT
- that to do so under OS/2 as OS/2 has to have both its native API and
- its Windows API-support, adding fatness. Also you leave out the
- Win32s stuff that allows Windows NT binaries to run under Windows
- (without some of the features of course). If you can run NT binaries
- under Windows 3.1, then how can you say they "don't have anything in common".
-
- >
- >TomK@cup.portal.com
- >Tom Krotchko
-
- Brian
- --
- C. Brian Sturgill *** OS/2 2.0 is for YOU! ***
- University of Utah Microsoft needs some competition, but
- Center for Software Science -I- want to be one of the many using NT.
- brian@cs.utah.edu; CIS: 70363,1373 :-) :-) :-)
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