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- From: ed@weir.pa.dec.com (Ed Gould)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
- Subject: Re: Mach 3.0 on 386/486
- Message-ID: <1992Aug31.163850.26515@PA.dec.com>
- Date: 31 Aug 92 16:38:50 GMT
- References: <1992Aug31.134336.5202@nic.funet.fi> <Bts7q1.1I5@percy.rain.com> <1992Aug31.000622.10414@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp>
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- Organization: DEC Network Systems Lab, Palo Alto
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- > It is true that mtXinu has their good NNTPSERVER which offers you good hints
- > and discussion about Mach386, but you still cannot get updates mentioned in
- > mach386.updates WITHOUT buying the expensive AutoSupport.
- >
- > That is only thing I have to complain about mtXinu, I think that when you
- > buy product, you should have the best possible product. If it isn't as good
- > as it should be (it has bugs) then you should get fixes to make it good.
- > I mean, there is no buglist in advertisements so you should get a bug-free
- > product too. Add-in packages are different, of course you have to pay
- > for them, but you should get bug fixes for free.
-
- There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
-
- No software product ever sold has been free of bugs. Anyone who thinks
- otherwise is fooling themselves. Fixing bugs costs money. It costs
- staff salaries, it costs overhead for the office space, supplies, and
- machines those staff use to find and fix the bugs, it costs additional
- staff salaries, and the associated overhead, to collect the bugs and
- distribute the fixes to customers, it takes staff to manage the
- systems used by the folks doing the bug fixing and distribution, and
- so on for a lot longer than many people have taken the time or effort
- to understand. They just want their "simple" bug fix for free.
-
- Product pricing is a tradeoff. To get "free" bug fixes, the initial
- price of the product must have the costs of providing those fixes
- built into it. When we set the initial prices for Mach386 (yes, this
- is not an unbiased comment from a third party - I left mt Xinu shortly
- after the Mach386 product was first released), we decided that the
- customers as a group would be best served by the pricing structure
- that kept the initial price low, but had available as an option
- additional services at additional cost. We knew full well that there
- would be individuals who would prefer things differently, but it is
- not possible to accommodate everyone at all times. We made the
- decision then (and, I presume they have continued to do so in
- reconsidering the prices as time has gone on), that we thought was
- best over all.
-
- Staff resources are limited as well. Which is more important to a
- small support staff, fixing the bug that keeps the whole system from
- booting for one customer, or fixing the bug that keeps "uncompress *"
- from working, after a workaround has been offered? We always thought
- it was the former. "Hire more staff," you say? Pay more money for
- the product.
-
- If what you want is the absolute lowest-price thing you can get your
- hands on, it's there for you to get from CMU. It's not supported,
- it's not complete, and it changes every week or so. That's not what
- most people want from their software. Most people want stability, and
- they want to know that when a serious problem arises, someone will pay
- attention to it. That's worth money.
-
- Like I said before, and others have, too, TANSTAAFL.
-
- --
- Ed Gould ed@pa.dec.com Digital Equipment Corporation
- +1 415 688 1309 Network Systems Lab 505 Hamilton Ave, Palo Alto, CA 94301
-
- "Unison is only one form of harmony." -- LW
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