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- From: praveen@sirius.mcc.com (Praveen Vishakantaiah)
- Subject: Re: To Test or Not to Test?
- Message-ID: <1992Aug31.223410.29152@mcc.com>
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- Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:34:10 GMT
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- I think Janak Patel has pointed out an important question which may have
- to be answered before talking about testing issues. Also, do test
- engineers really hype the need for test?
-
- > Janak> In this sense, testing is like buying an insurance.
-
- I compare test to an "extended warranty" rather than "insurance". An
- insurance policy is bought to protect oneself from the external
- environment whereas an extended warranty or even a "guarantee" is a
- protection against defective products.
-
- > Janak> Designers don't see any concrete gain by adding in
- > Janak> testability - it just comes in their way!
-
- This reminds me of a talk given by Dr. Szygenda at the "First
- International Workshop on the Economics of Design, Test and
- Manufacturing". He focussed on the legal aspects of not testing designs. I
- remember him saying that, legally a design engineer can be held responsible
- for a defective design (we all know that defective manufacturing can
- result in problems -- automobile recalls, defective medicines etc.) and
- can be potentially sued by a customer!! If in the future, in fact
- customers start suing system developers and system developers in turn sue
- the chip makers [I am sure the lawyers will try to find a way out of
- it;-)], testing can easily become a tangible thing. Do you think if a
- design engineer is told that he can be the target of a law suit if he did
- not consider testing :-), he will still say, "I am not interested in
- testing the design"? Just look at the US doctors and you will know the
- answer.
-
- > Janak> If you can't think of such a chip, look up a $1 LCD watch.
-
- The less expensive an item is, the lower are the chances that a customer
- is upset with the product [my experience, of course:-)]. That is why such
- products allow you take risks. But, just think of buying a $15,000 car and
- finding out that it has a defective chip which proves to be fatal within
- one month of purchase. The customer will sue the auto maker who in turn
- will definitely pass that on to the chip maker and so on.
-
- > Janak> It is very hard to sell testability or high coverage to this group.
- > Janak> (a) you don't ship very many defective chips. (just lucky!) or
-
- It is tough to argue with luck. I will run through a red light today and
- TEST my luck. See, you even have to TEST your luck;-)
-
- > Janak> (b) the customers are not very mad at receiving bad chips, or
-
- This might depend upon how frequently they receive the bad chips. If it is
- too often, it is hard to believe that the companies can still maintain
- their supremacy in a competitive market.
-
- > Janak> (c) the customers don't know that it is your chip that is bad in
- > Janak> the board.
-
- This is dangerous territory. Either they will have to improve the board
- tests or just hope that they are lucky that their customers buy their
- board and never use it:-)
-
- So, it looks like the best case just works on luck (I too have heard this
- reason very often, although in secret) and if this is the case, I am
- surprised why companies are starting to panic to find better testing
- strategies [if not, wake me up:-)]. It is understandable if companies do
- not want to spend money on extensive testing, but there needs to be at
- least some amount of testing (how much is the question) to ensure quality.
-
- If the customer answers the question, "To sue or not to sue", then I will
- answer the question, "To test or not to test":-)
-
- Praveen Vishakantaiah.
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