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- From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
- Subject: Re: Giles' Manual Mania (Was
- Message-ID: <1992Aug25.153733.6079@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Date: 25 Aug 92 15:37:33 GMT
- Article-I.D.: mksol.1992Aug25.153733.6079
- References: <396.174.uupcb@ssr.com>
- Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
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- In <396.174.uupcb@ssr.com> dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin) writes:
-
- >FJM5> .>When people ask me questions, I answer them. <- Period.
-
- >FJM5> .Then you do them a gross disservice, since you provide them with no
- > > .ability to find other things and no understanding of how they could
- > > .have found that answer.
-
- >Not true. It depends on the way one answers a question. There's a
- >truism that says "In order to ask a question, you have to know 90% of
- >the answer." Think about it...
-
- >Also consider the following two responses:
- > "What's the REAL question?"
- > "What have you tried?" or "What have you considered?"
-
- I'm a bit confused here. I differ with Jim in my suggestion that the
- thing to do is (rather than simply answer the question -- period)
- provide them with HOW to answer the question. Lead them to the answer
- and let them see how you found it. This is practically the same thing
- as what you suggested in your other note, and yet here you seem to
- disagree with me.
-
- >FJM5> .If it was easy, they wouldn't pay us. :-)
-
- >Non sequitor.
-
- Also fact.
-
- >FJM5> .>I don't recommend that
- > > .>*anyone* read the manuals except as a last resort (that is, when no one
- > > .>is available to *ask*).
-
- >FJM5> .Sounds like the old 'knowledge is power' game to me.
-
- >Perhaps. But not necessarily. If the Unix manuals are so usable and
- >informative howcum B.Dalton's got shelves full of books on Unix?
-
- B. Dalton's also has shelves full of books on Microsoft Windows, which
- is so simple to use that a trained chimp could probably manage it.
- You're judging ease of use by the number of books B. Dalton's has on
- the shelves?
-
- >FJM5> .>In fact, if you tell the user which manual is
- > > .>appropriate, they usually *will* try to read it - and the resulting
- > > .>questions (to explain the manual) will usually take longer than if
- > > .>you just explained the tool to them to begin with.
-
- >FJM5> .Then you must have some real rocks around where you work. We
- > > .generally require our engineers to know how to read before we turn
- > > .them loose on a computer.
-
- >Your organisation must be populated with rocket scientists. Or maybe
- >they just don't ask you, knowing what sort of non-answer to expect. The
-
- You mean the kind of non-answer where I drag out the manual, show them
- how to use it, and lead them to their answer so that they aren't
- helpless in future? You mean, in fact, the very kind of 'non-answer'
- that you suggested should be given elsewhere, except my way is
- somewhat more helpful since I don't just tell them to "check out the
- frob data structure" but show them where to find it?
-
- >UNIX manuals are REFERENCE manuals. To look things up that you _mostly_
- >know, to fill in the gaps. Even with the KWIC index, if you don't know
- >that it exists, and what its name is, you're going to have a tough time
- >finding it!!
-
- Sorry, but only SOME of the UNIX manuals are Reference manuals. Check
- out the set yourself.
-
-
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- in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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