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- From: hyder@niwot.scd.ucar.EDU
- Subject: Re: bug in 9.0(1) ?
- In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:11:27 +0700
- Message-ID: <9208311703.AA02736@mrbean.scd.ucar.edu>
- Sender: news@colorado.edu
- Date: 31 Aug 92 11:03:01 -0600
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- >> Recently we discovered strange behaviour in 9.0(1).
- >> We route tcp/ip decnet and appletalk and bridge LAT in a
- >> newly installed MGR.
- >> ARP requests done on lan-s connected to this router are
- >> FORWARDED to all interfaces! Even worse, since they are
- >> forwarded to a AGS with 8.3(3), the AGS has no way of
- >> protecting himself, but instead the AGS will put the ARP-s
- >> to all of hi's interfaces. In one case he substituded the
- >> original ip-address with the AGS ip-address.
- >> ...
-
- We have also seen some very troubling ARP related problems in
- 9.0(1). At this time we are using an ftp'd copy of 9.0(1.10)
- that seems to solve the problems. My advice would be if you use
- bridging don't use 9.0(1).
-
- Most of the nasty behavior seems to be related to the unexpected
- behavior on the Cisco routers related to the handling of ARP >reply<
- packets. For the record the queries are broadcast and are filtered
- >HOWEVER< replies are bridged, in our case to darn near everywhere on
- the net. [Please see question below.]
-
- What seemed to happen under 9.0(1) was that the bridged ARP reply
- packets caused routers to install incorrect arp cache entries for
- related routes. For example an ARP reply for a host that was known
- to be beyond another router caused an update of ALL arp cache entries
- for that net PLUS it updated the cache entry for the router. (Turns
- off the router rather nicely.) Rogue hosts, with the wrong IP address
- for the cable segment in question, absolutely triggered this arp cache
- corruption.
-
- My questions for everyone out there are:
-
- Why should these response packets be bridged to everyhwere?
-
- Yes, they truly are not IP packets by definition and are
- bridge-able. However, from what I can see on the tcpdumps
- the destination host's location is well known, so it seems to
- me that bridging these off of the origin segment is almost
- never correct. Is this a feature or is it done for some reason?
-
- Is the solution to this to install a filter that stops all bridged
- arp packets? Does this stop anything else I'm likely to need?
- (Like my AppleTalk)
-
- As always thanks in advance.
- Paul Hyder
- NCAR
- Boulder,CO
-