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- From: Tom_Karolyshyn@dgc.mceo.dg.com
- Subject: Re: Subnetting and class B nets
- Message-ID: <9208272111.AA00042@adam.WEBO.DG.COM>
- Sender: news@colorado.edu
- Date: 27 Aug 92 16:11:34 edt
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- CEO document contents:
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- > I am sure there must be some config command to bypass this problem.
- > Or is everyone wasting oodles of address space on their leased line
- > subnets?
-
-
- You can use the ip-unnumbered feature to conserve addresses, if your routers
- are all ciscos and if ip-unnumbered suits your needs. If you can afford to
- wait, you can eventually use OSPF or RIP II, though I have no comment on either
- their availability or stability.
-
- We use the following scheme to "conserve" subnets on a lot of our
- point-to-point serial links today.
-
- What we've done is to set aside a couple of subnets dedicated to serial links.
- These subnets will ultimately become "invisible" to the rest of the network.
- The number of subnets you need to allocate depends on the maximum number of
- serial links per router. This is because you don't want to (or can't)
- duplicate subnet numbers per router.
-
- We use a standard subnetted class B network mask, 255.255.255.0 across our
- entire network. What we do on the serial links is duplicate the same subnet on
- each serial link, with the host portion of the IP address unique for various
- reasons.
- For example,
- Router A 56k Router B
- 128.221.183.5-----------128.221.183.105
-
- Router C 56k Router D
- 128.221.183.15-----------128.221.183.115
-
- Note that only one subnet was used for 2 completely separate serial links.
- This subnet is utilized again and again...
-
- The key to getting this to work is to prevent these "invisible" (actually
- duplicate) subnets from getting into the outgoing routing updates. Use the
- "distribute-list out" command and access-lists (or equivalent) to keep these
- subnets out of the RIP or IGRP routing updates. The mindset here is that these
- serial links are only there to gateway you to another subnet, i.e., your
- ultimate destination. Therefore the subnet's existence only needs to be known
- and is only used by the adjacent router.
-
- This works out quite well. From a global network view, you get the same effect
- as an ip-unnumbered interface, i.e., can't "see" (ping, etc.) the interface
- from just anywhere anymore. But you can still actually ping the serial
- interface, if necessary, from the router directly connected to the other end of
- the serial link.
-
- There are some side issues related to SNMP traps, etc., which is one of the
- reasons for unique host ids. (nothing which hasn't been worked around :-)
-
- Tom
-
- Tom Karolyshyn
- Data General Corp
- Westboro, MA 01580
- 508-870-7936
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