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- From: bruce@camb.com (Barton F. Bruce)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: V.35 interface for PC?
- Message-ID: <1992Sep4.000253.39990@camb.com>
- Date: 4 Sep 92 00:02:52 EDT
- References: <1992Aug21.141629.28315@huracan.cr> <1992Sep1.194526.1462@kumr.lns.com>
- Organization: Cambridge Computer Associates, Inc.
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- hope@huracan.cr (Theodore Hope) writes:
- >Does anyone know who makes/sells a V.35 interface card for a PC-type machine
- >(preferable accessible under DOS)?
- >
- >With existing public-domain router software (ka9q, pcroute) for DOS, it would
- >be nice to connect V.35-compatible equipment (CSU/DSU).
-
- It is hardly necessary to use the v.35 type connector for 56kb speeds. Many
- CSU/DSUs even 2 generations or more older of these were equipped with BOTH
- RS-232 and V.35 connectors. The modern units also continue to support both
- connectors *and* bring new features that may make buying expensive sync
- cards needless for such low speeds as DDS. If you are planning to use
- T1 or faster, then go for sync and v.35 or rs-422 or rs-530, and probably
- a card that does protocol processing and even compression for you.
-
- True, the RS232 spec stops short of 56kb, so keep your cables short
- and you will have no problems. At 10' you never should have problems,
- though you can go much farther with good cable.
-
- It is not that ASYNC is particularly efficient or desirable, but it sure
- is CHEAP. Every PC comes equipped to do 57.6 or even 115.2kb. It is
- a good idea to swap in a $10 NS16550AFN uart, but it is still cheap.
-
- The big problem with CSU/DSUs is NOT the connector (RAD even makes a
- $150 active converter if you must get between v.35 and say rs232 or rs422)
- but the real problem is that most CSU/DSUs are SYNC, not ASYNC.
-
- The newer models of some CSU/DSUs *do* support ASYNC up to 19.2 or
- even 38.4kb, and shortly there will be several at 57.6kb. The 2
- 57.6kb async ones I am aware of now are between 1000 and $1500 list
- each end. That is silly, and in a few months there will be units with
- street prices maybe below $500 that do 57.6 async on 56kb sync dds lines.
-
- If you must get something TODAY, I think one of the BAT units at probably
- less than $500 will do 38.4 async. If you can wait a bit, there will be
- some snazzier units in the same price range that do 57.6 from companies
- known for quality Central Office DDS and T1 gear.
-
- They strip the start and stop bits, so you are getting 8/10ths of
- 57.6 which fits easily onto 56kb sync.
-
- You can use the very same PC with any of several ASYNC dialup modems
- that do 57.6 on the rs-232 interface and try hard to compress enough
- to stuff it all onto 14.4 or 16.8 or 19.2 or whatever they are running
- actually on the phone line. Some, such as the ZyXEL, can also run on
- leased 2 or 4 wire analog ckts.
-
- For terminal server ports or for SLIP connections, something like
- DEC's DS700 not only supports 57.6, but also 115.2 kb!
-
- So stay ASYNC for these applications if you want to save $s on low speed
- lines.
-
- The old rules of thumb about switching to SYNC devices are still true,
- but the speeds at which this makes the most sense are now much higher.
-