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- From: vere@netcom.com (Steven Vere)
- Subject: Re: AI Winter Refugees
- Message-ID: <fycnglj.vere@netcom.com>
- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:14:37 GMT
- Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- Summary: Management ignores functional AI systems
- References: <x+an!9a.vere@netcom.com>
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- The following is an interesting response I received by email from a
- person who would like to remain anonymous to avoid jeopardizing
- his/her job. In this text, the name of the company has been replaced
- by <MC> for Major Corporation.
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- [begin email text]
-
- >o what were the causes of AI Winter?
-
- I feel it's a combination of factors.
- Here at <MC> (and this is only my opinion not <MC>'s)
- what I've seen happen is that lots of money was
- spent on several prototype systems, of which nearly
- all worked. The problem arose when it actually came down
- to using the systems. The management here has no concept
- of how it runs its processes, because they're held
- responsible for money, schedules and people. Therefor they
- see very little need to "fix what ain't broke." They
- have also been conditioned not to take a risk. With this
- kind of corporate culture, AI expert systems just couldn't
- be implemented. They wouldn't take the risk, change the work,
- or spend the money to implement the prototypes. Therefore
- time after time the systems died on the vine. SO that
- after a while it looked like a lot of money was being wasted
- on a technology that didn't work. When I looked at the data
- I found out the technology was working they just weren't
- using it. And because of the corporate capacity for self-
- delusion, the technology got the blame when it was more
- the lack of any ability to implement new technologies in
- the information management area.
-
- This brings up another problem. At least here, the corporate
- culture really hampers technology transfer to occur in areas
- that one can't "touch and feel" the result. ie. It's much
- easier to bring in new technologies to the factory floor
- that to the MIS department. Our managemenmt just doesn't
- understand computers and how to handle information/knowledge.
- They can't feel it, or touch it, and computers are much
- too archane. In talking with my colleagues, this is a big
- problem in any corporation that has an older, white male
- management, like <MC>. In this kind of culture, AI systems
- just don't flourish, even when used for applications they are
- suited for. It's been very frustrating to see this process.
-
- >o alternative career paths followed by AI Winter refugees.
-
- Currently I'm working at a more conventional computing. It's
- the pits.
-
- The problem with the corporate culture I think is a much more
- important factor than most professionals realize. Once a technology
- gets the label of "useless" whether it's deserved or not, it's
- very hard to get funding. Even for reasonable projects. In US
- corporations the cultures are very similar to <MC>'s - no risk,
- short term, quick profit, "don't fix it if it ain't broke",
- crisis management that will talk "quality control" but has no
- idea how to implement it. This kind of environment will kill
- AI type projects every time. It's like putting an African Violet
- into a desert and expecting it to grow. Therefor the projects
- don't work even though lots of money gets spent. Therefor, to the
- US corporate way of thinking, the technology was over hyped and
- useless. The "word" gets out to the rest of the US corporate
- community, and that is that.
-
- I find it interesting that Europe is not having the same
- problem. I've been talking to colleagues who are finding
- opportunities in Frace, England, Spain, and Geramny. They
- systems are being used there, and jobs are more numerous.
-
- I also find it interesting which companies are still using
- this technology here in the states. They're keeping very
- quiet about it. They are also branching out their expertise
- to include Fuzzy logic, neural nets, and object-oriented
- computing -- often starting to combine 1 or more of these
- with the expert system paradigms.
-
- [end email text]
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