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- Content: Response
- Summary: DDnames in Procs
- Release and platform:
- Name: Pete Rikard
- Mail addresses:BITNET Rikard@vcumvs Internet rikard@vcuucc.ucc.vcu.edu
- Real Addresses:Virginia Commonwealth University, Computer Center
- 110 S. 7th Street, 4th Floor, Richmond, VA 23219
- Phone (804) 786-4828 FAX: (804) 371-8464
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- >Help
- > We are moving from r5.18 to r6.07 at our site, MVS batch. The
- >problem is the name change of the SASLIST and SASLOG DDnames. It
- >is a long standing practice at our site to order all the DDnames
- >ALPHABETICALLY IN PUBLIC PROCS.
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- Some lessons we learn the hard way. After many years of "improving"
- procedures provided by vendors, my answer is don't. The documentation
- provided by the vendor will tell the user to change this or that
- parameter, override the JCL this way, add to the command language
- that way,... and when your command process doesn't work that way
- cause you "made it standard", "improved it", "fixed it" the
- users (especially novice computer users) get very confused.
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- Make site written procs any way you want, provide vendor supplied
- procs as exactly as provided by the vendor as you can. Your rule
- is actually quite good; it provides a constant about the names
- for overridden ddnames. But, vendors IBM, SAS, SPSS, BMDP ....
- won't adhere to YOUR rules over time.
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