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- From: bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles)
- Subject: Denial
- Message-ID: <1992Aug31.061032.12392@colorado.edu>
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- Organization: National Oceanic & Atmospheric Adminstration / Boulder Labs
- Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:10:32 GMT
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- This situation is odd, even for me.
-
- Pam has said I would be a good husband and father. No reservations.
- She has also said she wants a strong marriage, kids, dogs, etc.
-
- But, (skipping a _lot_ of details) she has such a low opinion of
- herself that she refuses to believe that I (or anyone) would wish
- to marry her. She is so convinced that she is worthless that she
- actually becomes quite upset when I insist otherwise.
-
- Possibly related to this, when we went to Mexico last year she looked
- forward to our talks. She claims we didn't have any; I remember having
- one talk and telling her that "it wasn't our time;" she kept making
- statements in terms of an old boyfriend who had just gotten out of
- prison. (Boy, what Freud would make of that!)
-
- Within a week of her returning to Dallas she had dumped the old
- boyfriend and essentially moved in with someone she had just met.
- She knew it was a mistake, but she was feeling so lonely that she
- grabbed the guy because he was chasing her. (Didn't learn this
- until this weekend).
-
- Perhaps she expected/wanted me to 'sweep her off her feet' and was
- angry that I didn't... resulting in her latching onto the new guy?
- She should have know that I value loyalty, and would _not_ be pleased
- if she dumped her old boyfriend just because we went on a trip. (If
- she was going to dump him anyway is one thing, but I would never try
- to 'seduce' someone from a relationship where she is happy).
-
- She also kept her physical distance the entire time. In fact, when
- the Customs people seized the bird she had bought in Mexico (and which
- Aero Califoria claimed could be exported back to the U.S.) she refused
- even a "everything will be okay" platonic hug.
-
- But that was at the end of the trip. And she kissed me right before
- her bus left. When it was safe -- she had to leave (because of her
- father was unexpectedly hospitalized earlier in the day of our return
- flight) and she was leaving right then.
-
- Damn. During the trip last year I played everything as it lay.
- An old boyfriend (who she has been hung up on for a _long_ time)
- had just gotten out of prison and I gave her the room she said
- (and _acted_ as) she needed... from me and her boyfriend.
-
- But her comments this weekend... and a reexamination of events in
- Mexico (and since) in a different light. She lied through her teeth
- to me, her old boyfriend, her new boyfriend (after the trip), and most
- importantly to herself. Then she wrapped everything up into nice
- little 'strange loops' so nobody would catch on -- or figure out what
- to do if they did.
-
- No wonder she doesn't 'believe' that I could have more than a strictly
- platonic interest. She wants to believe, she is disparate to believe,
- but is terrified that _I_ am only interested in her as a friend so
- she is protecting herself in the only way she knows.
-
- Justifable homicide. There is no question that if I ever learn who
- hurt her this badly that it would be justifable homicide.
-
- At least I understand why she told me that if I was just playing a
- 'cruel joke' on her that she was damning me to Hell. Or New Jersey,
- whichever was worse. (I do use humor a lot, but many of our
- conversations would be _much_ too heavy otherwise).
-
- It seems I've answered my own questions. It won't be easy, but
- Pam's 'true self' did reveal itself this weekend. (More precisely,
- she revealed where it was (behind a closed door in a bombed out
- city -- Pam said that was a _very_ good description of how she
- felt), asked me to open the door, and I did just long enough for
- her to realize that I would shut it for her... but leave it unlatched
- for her to reopen herself. The entire marriage question came up
- the next day -- from her. (Her comments were _much_ more precise,
- and direct, than mine)).
-
-
- Bear Giles
- bear@fsl.noaa.gov
-