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- From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
- Subject: Re: FOCA: And I quote.....
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- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:24:37 GMT
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- In <1992Aug20.190712.18672@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
- >
- > > In article <1992Aug18.194600.15777@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Dou
- > > > In article <1992Aug18.143553.466@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
- > > > decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
- > > >
- > > > >dsh@zeus.csc.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- > > > >>garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
- > > > >>>john@anasazi.com writes:
- > > >
- > > > >>>> Hmmm... that's odd. I heard a PRO-CHOICE advocate state that 1% of
- > > > >>>> abortions in the US are in the 3rd trimester. These must be very
- > > > >>>> busy and rich doctors.
- > > >
- > > > >>> That's *less* than 1%.
- > > >
- > > > >> The annual number of abortions performed at 21 weeks and after tends
- > > > >> to number in the thousands. Percentages always make the numbers look
- > > > >> smaller than people might realize. That's because there are millions
- > > > >> of abortions performed every year.
- >
- > About 1.3% of abortions took place at >21 weeks of gestation in women over
- > 18 yrs of age (1988). Given about 1.3 million abortions in 1988, that's over
- > 13,000 abortions post 21 weeks.
- >
- > The 1.3% figure is based on data collected from 11 states.
- >
- > --Centers for Disease Control Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, July 1991
- > --Vital Statistics of the US, 1988. Vol. II-- Mortality.
- > --all figures are for 1988
-
- Your numbers are a bit off. First, it's not clear why you're limiting it to
- women over 18; 26% of those obtaining abortion in 1988 were teenagers
- (11 - 19). (I realize that there's an overlap in the ages, but these are
- the stats I have - also for 1988.) Your 1.3 percent is based on 11 states;
- the numbers I'm giving are based on the entire country.
-
- > A bit much for those 3 doctors someone else mentioned, unless a LOT of
- > abortions occur between 21 and 24 weeks,
-
- Bingo. Give that man a cee-gar. :-)
-
- (Actually, that's a lot *of those occurring after 21 weeks*, which is less
- than 1% of the total to begin with.)
-
- Information from the Alan Guttmacher Institute:
-
- 89% of abortions take place in the first trimester of pregnancy.
-
- 50% of the 1.6 million abortions each year take place at 8 weeks or less
- from the last time the woman menstruated (LMP); 27% at 9-10 weeks LMP; and
- 12% at 11-12 weeks LMP. 6% of abortions take place at 13-15 weeks LMP;
- 4% at 16-20 weeks LMP; and less than 1% at 21 weeks LMP or more (0.6%).
-
- About 100 or 0.01% of abortions take place after 24 weeks.
-
- One study found that of 78 reported abortions past 24 weeks of
- pregnancy, 75 were classified incorrectly and were actually in utero
- fetal deaths or occurred at earlier gestation, and two of the three
- correctly classified abortions were for anencephaly.
-
- (End of quotes)
-
- Adding up the above figures, we see
- 50% at 8 weeks or less, (fractional percentage unknown for these)
- 77% at 10 weeks or less, "
- 89% at 12 weeks or less, "
- 95% at 15 weeks or less, "
- 99.4% at 20 weeks or less. (by subtracting 0.6 from 100)
-
- I apologize for this interjection of facts; we now return you to
- your regularly scheduled flame-fest. :-)
-
- Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
-