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- From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
- Subject: Re: FOCA: And I quote.....
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- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:12:11 GMT
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- In <1992Aug20.121744.5285@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
- > In article <1992Aug18.194600.15777@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug
- > > In article <1992Aug18.143553.466@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
- > > decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
- > >
- > > >dsh@zeus.csc.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- > > >>garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
- > > >>>john@anasazi.com writes:
- > >
- > > >>>> Hmmm... that's odd. I heard a PRO-CHOICE advocate state that 1% of
- > > >>>> abortions in the US are in the 3rd trimester. These must be very
- > > >>>> busy and rich doctors.
- > >
- > > >>> That's *less* than 1%.
- > >
- > > >> The annual number of abortions performed at 21 weeks and after tends
- > > >> to number in the thousands. Percentages always make the numbers look
- > > >> smaller than people might realize. That's because there are millions
- > > >> of abortions performed every year.
- > > >>
- > > >> And it's not clear what Ms. Garvin defines as "third trimester". The
- > > >> definition of third trimester varies; some put it at 28 weeks, others
- > > >> at 24 weeks.
- > >
- > > > Then what is the relevance of your putting it at 21 weeks?
- > >
- > > I didn't place the third trimester at 21 weeks. The implication in
- > > this thread is that the third trimester corresponds to the period
- > > when the fetus is viable, which isn't always true. Some pro-aborts
- > > place the third trimester at either 24 or 28 weeks, but viability
- > > can occur before then.
- > >
- > > > Could there be an attempt there to, dare I say it, muddy the waters?
- > > > Misrepresent?
- > >
- > > By certain pro-aborts? You bet.
- >
- > Rather by you, as a pro-lier.
- >
- > 21 weeks is not at all a standard definition of thrid trimester.
- > Now you try to slip this "viability" issue in, just to keep
- > yourself from looking like a liar, which at this juncture is
- > probably impossible for you to do. However, viability at less
- > than five and a half months is very rare. It is unusual for
- > preemies born that early to survive, despite heroic efforts.
- >
- > Once again you are trying to deceive, Doug. I can't for
- > the life of me imagine what you hope to accomplish by giving
- > yourself a reputation as a liar who will say anything and
- > be caught in the act repeatedly.
-
- Just to be fair, I should point out that (as the subject suggests) this
- did start out discussing the Freedom of Choice Act, which mentions
- viability, not third trimester.
-
- Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
-