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From: [e-mail] (Larry Riddle)
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Subject: Re: Some comparison of Mma, Maple and SymbMath (REBUTTAL)
Keywords: Mathematica, Maple, SymbMath
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Date: 18 Aug 92 03:37:38 GMT
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In a previous article, Weiguang Huang writes:

>    Here are some problems that Maple and Mathematica cannot
>solve, but SymbMath can do.
>    The following examples came from news on the sci.math.symbolic
>newsgroup in 1991, and were run in Maple V, Mathematica 2.0, or
>SymbMath 2.1.

Unfortunately, some aspects of this article were inaccurate and
misleading. Since I do not use Maple, I will only comment on the
examples with respect to Mathematica.

Summary of comments:
(1) Of the 10 examples that do not involve improper integrals or
differential equations, Mathematica can do every example once we define
some simple rules or load some standard packages.

(2) Version 2.1 of Mathematica can solve the 2 differential equations
examples using the new package Calculus'DSolve'.

(3) SymbMath appears to evaluate improper integrals by evaluating the
indefinite integral at the endpoints. This correctly gives the Cauchy
Principal Value in some cases, but is *not* the way that the CPV is
defined. Simple translations of these "correct" examples produce the
same incorrect answers as given by Matheamtica. In several examples,
Huang breaks the integral into two parts at the singularity to get
SymbMath to give the correct answer, but *does not* do the same thing
with Mathematica, then claims that SymbMath can do the example but
Mathematica cannot. When SymbMath is told to compute the integral over
*one* interval, it gives the same incorrect answer as Matheamtica.

Conclusion: With regard to these 20 examples, there is no difference
between Mathematica and SymbMath.

Disclaimer: I did not write any part of Mathematica. In fact, I'm a
rather novice Mathematica user. I think Huang has done an impressive
job with SymbMath. I just think some misconceptions need to be corrected.

>************************ Example 1 ******************************
>> int(exp(-a * x^2), x=0..infinity);

>    SymbMath :
>    Input:
>inte(exp(-a*x^2), x from 0 to inf)
>assume(sqrt(a) > 0)
>inte(exp(-a*x^2), x from 0 to inf)
>    Output:
>1/2*a^(-0.5)*sqrt(pi)*erf(inf*sgn(sqrt(a)))
>assumed
>1/2*a^(-0.5)*sqrt(pi)
>

Mathematica 2.0 for SPARC
Copyright 1988-91 Wolfram Research, Inc.
 -- NeWS graphics initialized --

In[1]:= Integrate[Exp[-a x^2],{x,0,Infinity}]

        Sqrt[Pi]
Out[1]= ---------
        2 Sqrt[a]

Well, this is really only true if a is positive. But let's take a
look at SymbMath's answer:

1/2*a^(-0.5)*sqrt(pi)*erf(inf*sgn(sqrt(a)))

What does sgn(sqrt(a)) mean if a is not positive? Is this answer really
any better than Mathematica's answer? In fact, if we integrate from 0
to b, rather than from 0 to Infinity, Mathematica gives

In[2]:= Integrate[Exp[-a x^2],{x,0,b}]

        Sqrt[Pi] Erf[Sqrt[a] b]
Out[2]= -----------------------
               2 Sqrt[a]

which is exactly SymbMath's answer with b = inf. Thus I see no
difference between Mathematica and SymbMath here, with slight
preference to Maple's requirement of demanding to know if a is positive
before returning an answer.

>************************** Example 2 *********************************
>> int(x^n, x=0..1);
>
>    SymbMath :
>    Input:
>assume(n > -1)
>inte(x^n, x from 0 to 1)
>    Output:
>assumed
>1/(1 + n)
>

Mathematica:
In[3]:= Integrate[x^n,{x,0,1}]

                 1 + n
          1     0
Out[3]= ----- - ------
        1 + n   1 + n

Ok, this looks a bit strange because Mathematica has left the power of
0 unevaluated. That is perhaps not surprising because we have made no
claims about what type of number n is.

What would SymbMath give if there were no assumptions about n? (Notice
that Huang made the assumption n > -1 *before* he evaluated the
integral.)

SymbMath:
Input:
inte(x^n, x from 0 to 1)
Output:
-0^sgn(1+n)/(1+n) + 1/(1+n)

Why, it looks just like Mathematica's answer!

This is easy to take care of in Matheamtica.
First we load the package Declare.m written by Pekka
Jahunnen that will allow us to declare n to be positive.

In[4]:= <<Declare.m
{Declare, NewDeclare, NonPositive, RealQ}

In[5]:= Declare[n,Positive]

Now we must tell Mathematica how to evaluate positive powers of 0.
Again, easy to do.

In[6]:= Unprotect[Power]

Out[6]= {Power}

In[7]:= 0^x_?Positive = 0

Out[7]= 0

In[8]:= Integrate[x^n,{x,0,1}]

          1
Out[8]= -----
        1 + n

The same answer as SymbMath which also had to declare n > -1. The only
extra we really had to add in Mathematica was that 0^n = 0 when n is
positive, which was trivial to do.

>************************** Example 3 *****************************
>> int(x^n, x=eps..1);
>
>                                          (n + 1)
>                                 1     eps
>                               ----- - ----------
>                               n + 1      n + 1
>
>> limit(", eps=0, right);
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>assume(n > -1)
>inte(x^n, x from eps to 1)
>subs(eps=0 to last)
>    Output:
>assumed
>1/(1 + n) - eps^(1 + n)/(1 + n)
>1/(1 + n)

Mathematica:
In[9]:=Declare[n,Positive]

In[10]:= Integrate[x^n, {x,eps,1}]

                    1 + n
           1     eps
Out[10]= ----- - --------
         1 + n    1 + n

In[11]:= Limit[%,eps->0]

           1
Out[11]= -----
         1 + n

Again, the exact same answers as given by SymbMath. We are still using
the rules defined for powers of 0 and that n is positive, but didn't
have to do anything special for this example once those rules were made.

>*************************** Example 4 ***************************
>> 0^n;
>            0
>
># Maple flags the error only when 'n' is replaced by the constant 0:
>
>> 0^0;
>Error, 0^0 is undefined
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>assume(n > 0)
>0^n
>0^-n
>0^0
>    Output:
>assumed
>0
>discont
>undefined
>

Huang complains about Maple's answer for 0^n when no assumption is made
about n, but then assumes n > 0 before showing what SymbMath gives for
0^n. In fact, with no assumption about n, SymbMath will answer
0^sgn(n) for 0^n.

Mathematica gives
In[12]:= Declare[n, Positive]

In[13]:= 0^n  (* Remember we defined a rule to handle this *)

Out[13]= 0

In[14]:= 0^0

                                        0
Power::indet: Indeterminate expression 0  encountered.

Out[14]= Indeterminate

No difference between Mathematica and SymbMath here. I could easily
have defined the rule 0^x_?Negative = Infinity and then Mathematica
would have also returned 0^(-n) = Infinity.

>**************************** Example 5 ******************************
>    Maple:
>> int(x^k, x);
>
>                                     (k + 1)
>                                    x
>                                    --------
>                                      k + 1
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(x^k*d(x))
>subs(k=-1 to last)
>    Output:
>constant + x^(1 + k)/(1 + k)
>discont

I'm not really sure what the point of this example was. What did Maple
do "wrong" that SymbMath did better? Anyway, here is Mathematica:

In[15]:= Integrate[x^k,x]

          1 + k
         x
Out[15]= ------
         1 + k

In[15]:= % /. k -> -1

                                 1
Power::infy: Infinite expression - encountered.
                                 0

Out[16]= ComplexInfinity

Seems Mathematica can do this example also.

>**************************** Example 6 *****************************
>> limit(x^k/exp(x), x=infinity);
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>lim(x=inf, x^k/exp(x))
>lim(x=inf, x^(10^10)/exp(x))
>lim(x=inf, x^(10^10000)/exp(x))
>    Output:
>0
>0
>0

Mathematica does have trouble doing these limits for k > 3 with the
built-in Limit command. However, if we load the package Calculus'Limit'
then Mathematica can do this example also.

In[17]:= <<Limit.m

In[18]:= Limit[x^k/Exp[x],x->Infinity]

Out[18]= 0

In[19]:= Limit[x^(10^10)/Exp[x],x->Infinity]

Out[19]= 0

In[20]:= Limit[x^(10^1000)/Exp[x],x->Infinity]

Out[20]= 0

>****************************** Example 7 ****************************
>    Maple:
>> int(x^m * exp (-b * x), x=0..infinity);
>
>                            infinity
>                               /
>                              |       m
>                              |      x  exp(- b x) dx
>                              |
>                             /
>                             0
>
>
># As expected, the integral remains unevaluated.  Now declare the signs
># of the symbolic parameters:
>
>> signum(b) := 1;
>
>                                 signum(b) := 1
>
>> signum(m) := 1;
>
>                                 signum(m) := 1
>
>
># Upon attempting to compute the integral a second time...
>
>> int(x^m * exp (-b * x), x=0..infinity);
>
>                            infinity
>                               /
>                              |       m
>                              |      x  exp(- b x) dx
>                              |
>                             /
>                             0
>
># ...THE INTEGRAL CONTINUES TO REMAIN UNEVALUATED, despite the fact that
># the signs of the parameters 'b' and 'm' were declared PRIOR to the second
># attempt at computation.
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(x^n*exp(-a*x), x from 0 to inf)
>    Output:
>inte(x^n*exp(-a*x), x, 0, inf)

Huh? It seems SymbMath cannot do this integral either.
Mathematica:

In[21]:= Integrate[x^m Exp[-b x],{x,0,Infinity}]

          -1 - m
Out[21]= b       Gamma[1 + m]

>************************ Example 8 *********************************
>    Mathematica:
>In[1]:= Integrate[1/x,{x,-1,1}]
>Out[1]= -Log[-1]
>
>    Maple:
>has the same problem.
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(1/x, x from -1 to 1)
>inte(1/x, x from -1 to 2)
>    Output:
>0
>ln(2)
>
The problems of Mathematica with improper integrals with an
internal singularity are well known. But is SymbMath's answer any
better? The standard definition of the inproper integral of f(x) from a
to b when f has a singularity at c between a and b is

limit int(f[x],a to c-e1) + limit int(f[x], c+e2 to b)   (1)
e1->0+                       e2->0+

and with this definition int(1/x, x from -1 to 1) does not exist, so
SymbMath's answer is wrong. What SymbMath has computed is actually the
Cauchy Principal Value, defined by

limit [ int(f[x],a to c-e) + int(f[x],c+e to b} ]        (2)
e->0+

If the limit in (1) exists, then so does the limit in (2), but the
converse is not true. Which definition to use is, of course, up to the
user and depends on the reason for computing the integral. However, the
first definition is certainly the one most often encountered,
particularly in undergraduate calculus courses. In fact, Watson Fulks
writes in "Advanced Calculus: An Introduction to Analysis" that with
the Cauchy Principal Value "we are not dealing with a proper integral
nor even with an ordinary or garden-variety improper one" (p419).

Mathematica *can* compute Cauchy Principal Values also, but the user
must supply the exact location of the singularity. Here are the two
examples that Huang gives:

In[4]:= <<CauchyPrincipalValue.m

In[5]:= CauchyPrincipalValue[1/x,{x,-1,{0},1}]

NIntegrate::ploss:
   Numerical integration stopping due to loss of precision. Achieved neither
     the requested PrecisionGoal nor AccuracyGoal; suspect one of the
     following: highly oscillatory integrand or the true value of the integral
     is 0.

Out[5]= 0.

In[6]:= CauchyPrincipalValue[1/x,{x,-1,{0},2}]

NIntegrate::ploss:
   Numerical integration stopping due to loss of precision. Achieved neither
     the requested PrecisionGoal nor AccuracyGoal; suspect one of the
     following: highly oscillatory integrand or the true value of the integral
     is 0.

Out[6]= 0.693147

>*************************** Example 9 *******************************
>    Maple:
>has a problem for int(tan(x), x=0..pi).
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(tan(x), x from 0 to pi)
>    Output:
>0

Again, SymbMath has computed the Principal Value. Under the first
definition of an improper integral given above, this integral does not
exist.

In Mathematica:
In[2]:= CauchyPrincipalValue[Tan[x],{x,0,{Pi/2},Pi}]

NIntegrate::ploss:
   Numerical integration stopping due to loss of precision. Achieved neither
     the requested PrecisionGoal nor AccuracyGoal; suspect one of the
     following: highly oscillatory integrand or the true value of the integral
     is 0.

                   -16
Out[2]= -1.11022 10

Well, this looks close enough to 0 for me.

>**************************** Example 10 ****************************
>    Mathematica:
>cannot evaluate integral of sgn(x).
>
This is incorrect

In[3]:= Integrate[Sign[x],{x,-1,1}]

Out[3]= 0

In[4]:= Integrate[Sign[x],{x,-1,2}]

Out[4]= 1

>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(sgn(x), x from -1 to 1)
>inte(sgn(x), x from -1 to 2)
>    Output:
>0
>1
>
>************************* Example 11 ********************************
>Implicit diff. gives 1+y'[x](1+1/y[x])==0; y'[x]==-y[x]/(y[x]+1).
>
>    Mathematica:
> given this eq. as input to DSolve says that built-in
> procedure can't solve it.
>
DSolve in version 2.0 cannot solve this equation. However, version 2.1
comes with an additional DSolve package that *can* solve this equation.
From the Macintosh 2.1 version we get

In[1]:=DSolve[y'[x]==-y[x]/(y[x]+1),y[x],x]

Solve::tdep:

  The equations appear to involve trancendental functions
    of the variables in an essentially non-algebraic way.

Out[1]= Solve[-Log[y[x]] - y[x] == x + C[1] , y[x]]
(Note, what this means is that Mathematica was unable to find an
*explicit* solution for y[x], but neither could SymbMath. They just
indicated this in different ways)

>
>    SymbMath:
>solve the differential equation by integration inte() or by dsolve().
>    Input:
>d(y)/d(x)*(1+1/y) === -1
>inte(last*d(x))
>Expand=On
>dsolve(d(y)/d(x) === -y/(y+1), y)
>    Output:
>(1 + 1/y)*d(y)/d(x) === -1
>y + ln(y*sgn(y)) === constant - x
>Expand = On
>-y - ln(y*sgn(y)) === constant + x
>
>
>************************* Example 12 ********************************
>    Mathematica:
>                 y'[x] = y[x]^(1/2)
>                  y[0] = 0
>
>DSolve could not handle it. (It rarely solves anything!!), and the
>RungeKutta package only gave me the solution
>
>                    y[x]=0
>
>Obviously, there is another solution viz.
>
>                   y[x] = (x/2)^2

Again, version 2.1 can solve this equation:

In[2]:= DSolve[{y'[x]==y[x]^(1/2), y[0]==0},y[x],x]

                 2
                x
Out[2]= {{y[x]->--}}
                4

>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>dsolve(d(y)/d(x) === sqrt(y), y) [Can SymbMath handle initial conditions?]
>(last/2)^2
>    Output:
>2*sqrt(y) === constant + x
>y === 1/4*(constant + x)^2
>
>************************* Example 13 ********************************
>    Mathematica:
> Sqrt[a^2] evaluates to Sqrt[a^2].
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>sqrt(x^2)
>assume(a > 0)
>sqrt(a^2)
>assume(b <0 )
>sqrt(b^2)
>    Output:
>x*sgn(x)
>assumed
>a
>assumed
>-b
>

If we tell Mathematica what kind of variables we are working with, it
has no problem with this example:

In[4]:= <<Declare.m
{Declare, NewDeclare, NonPositive, RealQ}

In[5]:= Declare[x,Real,a,Positive,b,Negative]

In[6]:= Sqrt[x^2]

Out[6]= Abs[x]

In[7]:= Sqrt[a^2]

Out[7]= a

In[8]:= Sqrt[b^2]

Out[8]= -b

>********************** Example 14 **********************************
>    Maple and Mathematica cannot find the integrals of abs(x).
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(abs(x), x from -1 to 1)
>inte(abs(x)^5*d(x))
>    Output:
>1
>constant + 1/6*abs(x)^6*sgn(x)
>

Huang is correct. But it's not hard to fix this. Let's define our
own version of abs by abs[x] = x Sign[x]

In[1]:= abs[x_] := x Sign[x]

General::spell1:
   Possible spelling error: new symbol name "abs"
     is similar to existing symbol "Abs".

In[2]:= Integrate[abs[x],{x,-1,1}]

Out[2]= 1   (* Same answer as SymbMath *)

In[3]:= Integrate[abs[x]^5,x]

                   5        5
Out[3]= Integrate[x  Sign[x] , x]   (* Integration failed *)

In[4]:= Unprotect[Power,Integrate]

Out[4]= {Power, Integrate}

In[5]:= Sign[x_]^n_?EvenQ = 1    (* Give rules for powers of Sign[x] *)

Out[5]= 1

In[6]:= Sign[x_]^n_?OddQ = Sign[x]

Out[6]= Sign[x]

In[7]:= Integrate[x_^n_?OddQ Sign[x_], x_] = x^(n+1)/(n+1) Sign[x]

         1 + n
        x      Sign[x]
Out[7]= --------------   (* Give rule for integration of odd power *)
            1 + n

In[8]:= Integrate[abs[x]^5,x]

         6
        x  Sign[x]
Out[8]= ----------  (* Same answer as SymbMath *)
            6

In[9]:= Integrate[abs[x]^4,x]

         5
        x
Out[9]= --
        5

We had to define our own rules, but Mathematica could do this example.
Of course, I suspect that SymbMath has similar rules built-in.

>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>    The following problems are taken from Swokowski's Calculus
>book.  They cause Mathematica to fail because of a singularity in
>the interior of the interval of integration:
>
>        Section 10.4 Problems 3, 12, 15, 16, 23, 29.
>
>The comments "INTEGRAL IS DIVERGENT" and "Principal Value" come from
>Macsyma.  Mma gives no indication that anything is amiss.
>
>************************ Problem3 *********************************
>    Mathematica:
>In[4]:= Integrate[1/x^2,{x,-3,1}]
>
>          4
>Out[4]= -(-)                            (* INTEGRAL IS DIVERGENT *)
>          3
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(1/x^2, x from -3 to 1)
>    Output:
>inf

This is impressive. Was SymbMath able to detect the singularity and
compute the appropriate improper integral? Let's translate the
function and interval one unit to the right. This should not affect the
value of the integral

  SymbMath:
  Input:
inte(1/(x-1)^2, x from -2 to 2)
  Output:
-4/3

Oops. Looks like SymbMath got the same answer as Mathematica.

>
>************************** Problem12 ***************************
>    Mathemtica:
>In[6]:= Integrate[x^(-4/3),{x,-1,1}]
>
>Out[6]= -6                              (* INTEGRAL IS DIVERGENT *)
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(x^(-4/3), x from -1 to 1)
>        Output:
>inf
>
Let's try translating the function and interval again.

  SymbMath:
  Input:
inte((x-1)^(-4/3), x from 0 to 2)
  Output:
-6

Well, again SymbMath got the same incorrect answer as Mathematica.
My suspicion is that SymbMath has built-in rules to tell it how to
integrate x^(-n) from a to b when n > 1 and a < 0 < b. However, when
SymbMath cannot use one of these rules, as when we translated the
function, then it simply integrates and evaluates at the endpoints,
*just as Mathematica does*.

>**************************** Problem15  ************************
>    Mathematica:
>In[7]:= Integrate[1/x,{x,-1,2}]
>
>Out[7]= -Log[-1] + Log[2]
>
>    Maple:
>has the same problem.
>
>    Macsyma:
>    (c7) integrate(1/x,x,-1,2);
>    Principal Value
>    (d7)                                log(2)
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(1/x, x from -1 to 2)
>    Output:
>ln(2)
>
Here SymbMath has computed the Cauchy Principal Value. The improper
integral as Swokowski would define it is divergent.

>
>********************** Problem16 ************************************
>    Mathematica:
>In[8]:= Integrate[1/(x^2-x-2),{x,0,4}]
>
>        -Log[-2]   Log[2]   Log[5]
>Out[8]= -------- + ------ - ------
>           3         3        3
>
>    Macsyma:
>    (c8) integrate(1/(x^2-x-2),x,0,4);
>    Principal Value
>                                         log(5)
>    (d8)                               - ------
>                                           3
>
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>inte(1/(x^2-x-2), x from 0 to 4)
>    Output:
>-1/3*ln(2) + 1/3*ln(2/5)
>
Here is an interesting answer. Why would it be of this form? It might
be interesting to see how SymbMath would do the indefinite integral.

  SymbMath:
  Input:
inte(1/(x^2-x-2)*d(x))
subs(x=4 to last) - subs(x=0 to last)
  Output:
constant + 1/3*ln(abs(-4+2*x)/abs(2+2*x))
-1/3*ln(2) + 1/3*ln(2/5)

It appears that SymbMath evaluated this improper integral by simply
integrating and evaluating at the endpoints, which is not,
in general, a valid procedure. It works here because if

int(f(x)*d(x)) = ln(abs(g(x))  where g(x) is continuous

then the Cauchy Principal Value between a and b will equal
ln|g(b)| - ln|g(a)|. So the one advantage SymbMath has over Mathematica
in this context is that it has been programmed to use

inte(1/x*d(x)) = ln (x * sgn(x))


>***************************** Problem23 **********************
>    Mathematica:
>In[10]:= Integrate[(1/x^2)Cos[1/x],{x,-1,2}]
>
>                       1
>Out[10]= Sin[-1] - Sin[-]              (* INTEGRAL IS DIVERGENT *)
>               2
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>y=1/x^2*cos(1/x)
>inte(y, x from -1 to 0-zero) + inte(y, x from 0+zero to 2)
>    Output:
>y = x^(-2)*cos(1/x)
>sin(-1) - sin(1/2) + 2*sin(inf)
>
Now wait a minute. Huang makes Mathematica integrate over an interval
that includes the singularity, but has SymbMath break the integral into
its two part as the definition of this improper integral requires. That
doesn't seem quite fair. Let's have Mathematica do the integral the
same way that SymbMath does:

In[1]:= Integrate[1/x^2 Cos[1/x],{x,-1,0}] + Integrate[1/x^2 Cos[1/x],{x,0,Infinity}]

                                 1
Power::infy: Infinite expression - encountered.
                                 0

Out[1]= Infinity

Now Mathematica tells us that the integral is divergent. It would have
been interesting to see what answer SymbMath gave if we asked it to
integrate from -1 to 2, but the shareware version of SymbMath, which I
was using, does not include the trig functions.

>************************** Problem29 ********************************
>    Mathematica:
>In[12]:= Integrate[1/(x-4)^2,{x,0,Infinity}]
>
>           1
>Out[12]= -(-)                          (* INTEGRAL IS DIVERGENT *)
>           4
>
>    SymbMath:
>    Input:
>y=1/(x-4)^2
>inte(y, x from 0 to 4-zero) + inte(y, x from 4+zero to inf)
>    Output:
>y = (-4 + x)^(-2)
>inf
>
Here we go again, asking Mathematica to integrate over the singularity
while letting SymbMath integrate over two intervals. Let's have
SymbMath do it the same way as Mathematica:

  SymbMath:
  Input:
inte(1/(x-4)^2, x from 0 to inf)
  Output:
-1/4

The same *wrong* answer as Mathematica. Now let's have Mathematica do
the integral over two intervals:

In[2]:= Integrate[1/(x-4)^2,{x,0,4}] + Integrate[1/(x-4)^2,{x,4,Infinity}]

Infinity::indet: Indeterminate expression -Infinity + Infinity encountered.

Out[2]= Indeterminate

Mathematica now correctly determines that the integral is divergent.
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