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- From: Andrew.Robinson@anu.edu.au
- Subject: Re: Whale rights - Science and sentimen
- Message-ID: <1992Aug21.030931.3837@newshost.anu.edu.au>
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- Organization: Australian National University
- References: <1992Aug16.174922.4096@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> <1992Aug17.181809.13963@nuchat.sccsi.com>
- Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 03:09:31 GMT
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- Hi Kevin!
-
- In article <1992Aug17.181809.13963@nuchat.sccsi.com> kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com
- (Kevin Brown) writes:
- [deletia]
-
- >So which do you value more? Human life, or animal life? This is the
- >question you must ultimately answer in order to decide whether or not
- >experiments on animals are justified.
-
- I find it hard to accept that the (to choose a well known example) forced
- injection of shampoo products into rabbit's eyes is justified, or even
- addressed, by an answer to your question above. Likewise those reported
- recently at the 9th International Bat Congress in India in which the
- temperature of the environment in which several bats were housed was
- deliberately raised until "they breathed their last" (the touching little quote
- coming from the abstract). The researcher's justification? "Sometimes we have
- to kill animals in science." Or the rats force-fed supposed carcinogens,
- proving that over feeding rats with [insert-your-fad-here] gives them cancer?
- What _does_ that have to do with us and our physiology? Now if we could
- establish that human life _is_ improved by _some_ animal experiments, then
- perhaps this would justify that subset, or an acceptably similar subset of
- them. But this is begging the questions :
-
- 1) how do we prove it?
- 2) what is acceptable?
- 3) how much improvement justifies a set amount of suffering?
- ...
-
- regardless,
- Andrew
-
- now hit d
-