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- From: bill@c3177208.ssr.hp.com (Bill Chidester)
- Subject: Re: Responses from Engine troubles
- Message-ID: <1992Aug18.030343.20950@c3177208.ssr.hp.com>
- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:03:43 GMT
- References: <1992Aug15.044459.17915@uwm.edu>
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- jam@ee.uwm.edu (Jeff McKelvey) writes:
- :
- : I recently posted a question about a problem I had with an OS SF .25.
- : It would run fine on the ground but after 3-5 mins in the air it would
- : suffer a severe loss of power and RPM. Here is a brief list of the
- : possible solutions I recieved:
- :
- (stuff deleted...)
-
- : noticed that the engine reaches peak RPM when the needle valve is about
- : 6 turns out, from the responses I've been getting and from the manual
- : this seems like a lot, is it? Should it be closer to 2 or 3?
- : It's been raining here all week so I don't know how the engine works in
- : the air yet but, as usual, runs great in my parking lot.
- :
- : Thanks again,
- : Jeff
- :
- :
-
- You still have a whopper of an air leak and I'll bet I know where it is.
- Every O/S engine I have seen (well, every two-cycle engine) leaks around
- the needle valve. Our standard fix is to put a short (1/4 to 3/8") section
- of medium or large fuel tubing over the needle valve, where the needle
- valve screws into the needle valve housing. Use a small hemostat or a pair
- of 'streamly skinny, very expensive, needle-nosed pliers. If you don't have
- any hemostats, by all means get some. Ask your dentist if you can buy some
- of his worn out ones and he'll likely give them to you. You may have to
- take the little spring steel needle valve keeper off in order to do this
- (that's the thing that goes ticky-ticky-ticky whenever you turn the needle
- valve). The fuel tubing will keep the valve from turning in addition to
- providing a good seal. (Note that there are many Chinese/Korean engines on
- the market that are OS knock-offs that suffer from the same problem.)
-
- Most O/S engines will go from rich to lean between 2.5 to 1.5 turns and
- should go from lean to rich in one turn. If you have to go more than a
- couple of turns for a rich run, check for air leaks or look for some sort of
- fuel restriction (detach the fuel feed and the pressure feed, blow into
- the pressure line -- point the feed line away from your face. You should
- get a good stream of fuel with a moderate toot on the pressure line. If
- your cheeks puff out, you've proably got a crimp in the line). As a matter
- of fact, the only two cycle engine I own that doesn't leak around the
- needle valve is a Picco .45.
-
- One of the most perplexing engine problems we've seen recently (our flying
- club is 'we', I doubt they'll ever elect me Pope) was an OS .40FP that
- behaved exactly as you described. Ran on the ground, but no more that 3
- minutes in the air. It was noted that the needle valve was very "touchy"
- and sensitive to sideways pressure. A sure indication of a bent needle.
- The valve looked good, but was replaced anyway, to no avail. Finally, it
- was found that the needle valve was fine, but the casing had been bent
- during an unexpected density transition (from air to Earth). A new needle
- valve casing solved the problem.
-
- Let me know how the tubing trick works out -- it's cured many an OS engine
- of lean running.
-
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- Bill Chidester KE4WS
- Sunset R/C (Home of the Cloud Dancers)
- bill@c3177208.ssr.hp.com
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