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- Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!alchemy!edwin
- From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer)
- Subject: SUMMARY: Virtual 4Dwm -- ever ??
- Summary: SGI virtual-wm-stuff is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl
- Sender: network-news@cs.ruu.nl
- Message-ID: <1992Aug18.151627.14184@cs.ruu.nl>
- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:16:27 GMT
- Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
- Lines: 156
-
-
- This is a summary on the thread with the subject ``Virtual 4Dwm -- ever ??'';
- that started on August 6, with this message I posted in "comp.sys.sgi":
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- |me> I was wondering if SGI has planned to develop a `Virtual Desktop'
- |me> version of their 4D Window Manager. I'd really love to have it! I've
- |me> been using 4Dwm for quite a while, but I really needed to get a bigger
- |me> desktop (no, a 19" monitor is not the solution <:-}).
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- I received the following replies, some of them as a follow-up
- in the newsgroups, others directly by e-mail. Contributors appear
- in no particular order.
-
-
- Milton Tinkoff <milt@primus.esd.sgi.com> of SGI pointed me towards an
- enhanced version of their 4Dwm:
-
- |MT> I used to use tvtwm too. We have a version of 4Dwm with
- |MT> xrooms functionality built into it that I've been using for a
- |MT> couple of months. It works reasonably well, but it still a bit
- |MT> buggy. It's someone's pet project, so I don't know if there are any
- |MT> plans to ever release it as an actual product.
-
-
- The `someone' in Milt's reply turned out to be Susan Dahlberg and she
- told me that:
-
- |SD> Well, it is more of a prototype than a "pet project".
-
- She expects it to be released sometime in the future, thereby sharing
- Dave Olson's opinion:
-
- |DO> A version of 4Dwm with the xrooms stuff integrated is in use by
- |DO> various people at SGI (I use it). Plans are for it to be in a 'future
- |DO> release'.
-
-
- So far for a 4Dwm with xrooms functionality builtin. There are some
- alternatives suggested to me:
-
- Marc Andreessen <marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu> suggested to get 'vr' from
- export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib. It provides `virtual rooms' in a fashion
- comparable to HP VUE (if you've seen that). It works great with
- 4Dwm or so I'm told...
-
- Steve Gray <gray@celia.uucp> told me that per Jim Helman's posting
- in this newsgroup a while ago he ftp'ed 'xrooms' from
- export.lcs.mit.edu. With some minors mods supplied to him by Mr.
- Helman he was able to get it running. Steve also mailed me the patches
- -- please refer to the end of this message for availability.
-
- Robert van Liere <Robert.van.Liere@cwi.nl> contributed by telling me
- that he didn't use 'tvtwm', but it has a bug which makes it dump on
- some SGI; he also supplied this patch:
-
- parse.c
- 1415c1415
- < cp = malloc(n + 1);
- ---
- > cp = malloc(n);
-
-
- Rainer Sinkwitz <sinkwitz@ifi.unizh.ch> simply said: "I'm using
- olvwm 3.2 here - it's a pleasure." This led me to asking him whether
- or not this implies that he ported "xview3" to the SGI's? He answered:
-
- |RS> Yes, I did it just this week and today I posted the patches as
- |RS> cross-posting to both comp.windows.open-look and comp.sys.sgi. I
- |RS> accidentially omitted olvwm from there since sources are somewhere
- |RS> else. Depending on feed-back from the net I will probably do a re-post
- |RS> with newer fixes and hints (e.g. olvwm -depth 24, still gives me
- |RS> errors, not so for olwm).
-
-
- Before going to bother you with how-to-get-this-stuff-via-ftp
- instructions, I would like to thank all contributors for their advice.
- Thank you all!
-
-
- AVAILABILITY OF SOURCES
- -----------------------
- I collected some of the software that was suggested to me and made
- it available for both anonymous ftp and our mail-server.
- Until now, I've not decided what I'm going to use for the next
- decade (:-}) -- I guess I have to try them all...
-
- ________________________________________________________________________
- We, Computer Science department, Utrecht University, are running an
- anonymous FTP server on one of our systems. In addition to the FTP
- service we're also running a mail server, for those of you without
- direct Internet access.
-
-
- --> How to get 'SGI virtual-wm-stuff' via anonymous FTP:
-
- Site: ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17]
- Login: "anonymous" or "ftp"
- Password: your own email address (you@your_domain)
- file:
- /pub/SGI/vr-1.1.tar.Z
- /pub/SGI/xrooms.tar.Z
- /pub/SGI/xview3-sgi-patch.tar.Z
-
-
- --> How to get 'SGI virtual-wm-stuff' via e-mail from our mail-server:
-
- NOTE: In the following I have assumed that your mail address is
- "fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu"; of course you must substitute
- your own address for this.
-
- | Please use a VALID DOMAIN ADDRESS.
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-
-
- Send the following message to
- mail-server@cs.ruu.nl
- or the old-fashioned path alternative
- uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!ruuinf!mail-server
-
-
- begin
- path fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu (SUBSTITUTE _YOUR_ ADDRESS)
- send SGI/vr-1.1.tar.Z
- send SGI/xrooms.tar.Z
- send SGI/xview3-sgi-patch.tar.Z
- end
-
-
- The path command can be deleted if we receive a valid from address in your
- message. If this is the first time you use our mail server, we suggest you
- first issue the request:
-
- send HELP
-
-
- A complete "ls-lR" listing of the archive is kept in the top-level
- directory, it will be updated every night. To get it, issue the command:
-
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-
-
-
- That's all for now. If you encounter problems using the FTP service
- and/or the mail-server, feel free to drop me a line (by e-mail, please).
-
-
- --[ Edwin ]--
- --
- Edwin Kremer, systems and network administrator. [NIC-Whois handle: EHK3]
- Department of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
- Email: edwin@cs.ruu.nl NeXT-mail: edwin@edge.cs.ruu.nl
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