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- From: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
- Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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- Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:54:46 GMT
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- tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Tom Marchioro) writes:
- >While there are many possibilities, you might also want to consider
- >TeX, which is *free* (in the sense that it's bundled) and is capable of
- >making virtually any kind of table, including fancy rules, equations,
- >mixed entries, a wide range of fonts, etc. etc.
-
- Yes, TeX would be a good answer to my problems if only it's power and
- cross-platform re-useability came with a GUI. Unfortunately, I don't
- have the time to learn another programming language, yet I still have
- the need to be able to graphicly manipulate everything I do. A
- GUI-oriented DTP seems to be the only solution for me.
-
- I hear it's quite capable of doing anything, which is good, but I wish
- that it's power wasn't dependant upon one learning a language. I know
- that there are GUI previewers and debuggers (similar to Yap, except
- for TeX and not Postscript), but what I need is 100% GUI, no new
- language learning needed.
-
- >The basic rule of TeX is that making the *first* table is hard, but after
- >that they're all pretty easy as you just recopy the same format.
-
- This is how I wish so many GUI DTP programs would be, even Frame can't
- make a format out of the kind of tables I need. Tables where the whole
- thing isn't a checkerboard of some height and width seems to be beyond
- Frame's ability. Something like this would be a piece of cake for TeX,
- I'm sure, but for Frame...well...no:
-
- |------------------------------------------|
- | XXXXXXXXXXXXXX | |
- |----------------| |
- | YYYYYYYYYYYYYY | |
- | YYYYYYYYYYYYYY | |
- |-----------------------------------------------------------|
- | Q Q Q |
- |-----------------------------------------------------------|
- | H |
- |-----------------------------------------------------------|
-
- X = shading of 13% of a color (13% refers to luminance) background
- Y = pure white background
- Q = vertical borders that are exactly 1/4 of the way between the left
- and right edges of the table. No matter how much this table row is
- sized, these vertical borders are always at a fixed relative position.
- H = same as Q, but this is halfway between the left and right borders
- on the same row.
-
- >Hope this is Helpful
-
- Thank you for responding, but by no fault of yours, TeX is not for me.
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- -- Jeff (jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
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