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- From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
- Subject: Re: Solid Value, Rulers, and Copy Protection (long)
- Message-ID: <1992Aug13.170429.2212@dpp>
- Sender: dpp@dpp
- Reply-To: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
- Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
- References: <Bsvsvr.7MA@atherton.com>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:04:29 GMT
- Lines: 269
-
- In article <Bsvsvr.7MA@atherton.com> mcgregor@netcom.com (Scott L.
- McGregor) writes:
- >
- > I think that the basis of this debate is the difference in perspective
- of the
- > company and of individuals. A lot has been said about how it appears
- from the
- > individual side, but perhaps it may be useful to also look at it from
- the
- > company's side.
- >
- > Many company's have either private or venture financing. These funds
- were
- > acquired with the explicit goal of achieving a certain return on the
- > investments. For instance, a goal of $20+ Million in annual revenue is
- common,
- > since below this amount it is difficult for the stock to go public and
- for the
- > investors to recoup their investment through the sale of their stock.
- >
- > (The point about investor expectations is important to note, because at
- many VC
- > and privately funded companies the founders hold very little of the
- stock and
- > don't have control any more. It's not just enough for them to "make
- enough to
- > pay their rent". They have to meet the investor's goals or they will be
- > replaced by someone else who will make them more central. Remember,
- companies
- > are only individuals in the legal fiction sense. It is not a faceless
- company
- > that is greedy, it is the investors who put their money in that are.
- And if
- > you have ever put your money in a variable rate bank account, money fund
- or
- > mutual fund--and later pulled it out because the return was lower than
- you
- > expected, then you are acting just the way investors who fund these
- companies
- > do).
- >
- > Now consider what this means in a large market (like the PC market) vs.
- a small
- > market (like the NeXT market). There over 10 Million copies of MS
- Windows
- > were sold last year. So, if you write an application such as a check
- book
- > program like Quicken, and you sell it on Windows Platforms, you can sell
- it for
- > $20 each and still meet your $20M goal, even if you only sell to 10% of
- that
- > market.
- >
- > Now consider the NeXT market: there are about 50K systems out there now.
- > Probably some of those are used for academic or corporation use only,
- but lets
- > assume they aren't and that EVERYONE would buy the checkbook program.
- How much
- > would it have to cost for the company to meet their $20M goal? With a
- little
- > mathematics we find that it is $400. And had we assumed only the same
- 10%
- > penetration rate we would have got $4000.
- >
- > Now from the customer's perspective, it is check book balancing is
- relatively
- > the same benefit whether done manually by an accountant, done on a NeXT,
- or
- > done by Quicken under windows. So from the customer's standpoint the
- price
- > "ought" to be the same. When it isn't, especially when it is
- significantly
- > higher priced the customer may be mystified, or worse frustrated. The
- customer
- > sees that if the prices were more "in line" they would be more willing
- to buy
- > and the company would make more sales. But the customer doesn't see
- that the
- > total revenue might decline faster than the unit volume props it up. At
- a
- > $400/copy there might be many people who still would not buy it and that
- would
- > undermine the company's (and their investor's) goals. But there might
- well be
- > a set of very wealthy, relatively price insensitive customers who would
- pay the
- > $4000 willingly for the convenience of not buying a PC. And those
- customers
- > alone (if say they were 10% or the market) might help the company meet
- its
- > magic $20M goal. But dropping the price to $400 might only get twice as
- many
- > more customers even though it cut unit price by a factor of 10.
- >
- > Also, unfortunately, if you offer your checkbook program on NeXT at $20,
- not
- > only will you be limited to making only $2M tops (10% of the goal
- mentioned
- > above), but that matching price on NeXT and similar functionality is not
- likely
- > to be enough draw by itself to cause NeXT sales to climb to 10 Million
- > overnight. This reality can lead to less investment (and consequent less
- > choice) in niche markets like NeXT. It can also mean the companies that
- are
- > there are smaller and have smaller sales expectations, and less ability
- to
- > support and distribute compared to their mass market bretheren. I think
- you
- > can see this is in fact true of the NeXT market where smaller companies
- like
- > Lighthouse Design and RightBrain are more common than companies like
- Microsoft
- > and Borland.
- >
- > This is the pricing/ROI dilemna that company's face in small niche
- markets. It
- > would be great if companies could find some way to segment their product
- sales
- > the way airlines do, offering higher priced "seats" to business and
- wealthier
- > individuals, while offering lower priced "seats" to individuals and
- students.
- > I've seen a few effort here to offer such separate pricing schemes for
- > software, but in general it is hard to keep the all the higher priced
- sales
- > from migrating to the lower priced copies, undermining the multi-tier
- pricing
- > strategy.
- >
- > Of course, the actual situation is even more complex and messy than
- this. But,
- > if you want to understand why companies act the way they do, it is
- useful to
- > put yourself in their shoes for a bit. Once you see it from their
- perspective,
- > you may be able to suggest alternatives that help them meet their goals
- as well
- > as your own.
- >
-
- I have to really disagree with the above post. I am going to start with
- the premise that the great stuff in the industry comes from people who put
- their heart and soul into the project, and don't worry as much about the
- money.
-
- Microsoft was not a venture funded company. Lotus was funded (during its
- first round) out of the pockets of a few people. I don't know how much
- Borland received first round, but it probably was not based on a business
- plan of $20M annual revenue.
-
- Money can buy market share, but cannot create a great product. Great
- products come from the heart and soul of the authors. Market share will
- erode if the product is not good. There is example after example of this.
- Wordstar and DBase II owned the CP/M market. They lost market share in
- the PC world because better programs came along. Lotus is losing market
- share to Borland and Microsoft because both Quattro Pro and Excel are
- great products, where 1-2-3 for Windows is really poorly done. As much as
- I hate to say this, Microsoft does very good applications programs. They
- had many years of pumping out poor quality stuff, but they have refined
- their products over the years.
-
- Money people are looking for safer and safer investments. They are
- financing later and later and looking for more mainstream products. This
- is bad for both the money people and the folks who are innovating. Way
- back in the Apple days, venture folks were so flushed with cash and
- success that they would back just about anything. Then, the growth slowed
- and funds stopped making 25%+ annual returns. Some funds are making less
- than T-bills these days. In typical American business fashion, the fund
- managers get more conservative and look to back companies with more mature
- products and larger market share. That means that we folks who still
- believe that the teak desks and leased cars come after we've gone public
- have to fund out of our pockets and with the help of friends who believe
- in us.
-
- The business plan for Athena Design calls for a reasonable market
- penetration into a NeXT market that we don't expect to grow by more than
- 10% a year. This yields enough money to pay the bills, give out nice
- bonuses, invest in R&D, and be comfortable. Sure it would have been nice
- to have a $3 million round a few months ago, but that didn't happen, and
- it no longer needs to happen. We are a lean organization dedicated to
- putting out a great product, enhancing that product, and standing behind
- that product. We are in it because it's a great adventure. Nobody here
- expects or even wants to be the next Bill Gates. We want to provide great
- software and be able to feed ourselves.
-
- What does this boil down to? We can be flexible with our licensing
- arrangements because we don't have a bunch of VC guys saying, "you have to
- use the same license that Microsoft uses." We can offer Mesa at $99 for
- educational folks because I don't have to make anything more this quarter
- than my payroll, advertising, and rent (i.e., I don't have to pay rent on
- money that was given by a bunch of people who want to see results, *NOW*.)
-
- Software companies have a low cost of entry into a marketplace, especially
- one as small as the NeXT marketplace. I can see charging a premium for
- specialized software that will go into a limited market and have a high
- support cost (i.e., a legal time-billing package). There is no reason
- that mass market NeXT applications have to cost significantly more than
- mass market PC or Mac applications.
-
- Costs for an application can be split between fixed and variable.
- Variable costs are those that increase with each unit sold. Fixed costs
- are the rest.
-
- Fixed costs in the NeXT marketplace are product development, marketing,
- rent and utilities. Variable costs are box and packaging and tech
- support. I know there are many other costs, but these are the biggies.
-
- Variable costs in the NeXT marketplace are the same as the Mac or PC
- marketplace. If costs no more to produce 1,000 copies of Mesa than 1,000
- copies of Excel. Supporting the product may be a little less expensive on
- the NeXT because it is more user friendly than the Mac or PC. Let's say
- the variable costs are the same.
-
- Fixed costs:
- Rent and utilities - this is a little higher in the NeXT market because we
- have to pay to be connected to the Internet. This cost is to a certain
- degree based on the size of the organization and its values. We have a
- small organization and we work on folding tables (just like the early days
- of Borland.) A Mac or PC startup shipping a similar quantity of product
- will have similar costs.
-
- marketing - The NeXT community is so tightly knit that word about products
- gets around very quickly. Advertising is dirt cheap. I can buy a full
- page in a publication that goes to a good chunk of NeXT owners for about
- $700 (the AppWrapper.) It's impossible to spend more than $80,000 a year
- in advertising in this market. $80,000 would be the minimum monthly
- marketing budget for a Mac or PC software vendor.
-
- R&D - The R&D costs for NeXT products are similar to those of Mac or PC
- products. Just because companies spend millions to develop a product
- doesn't mean they have to. I wrote most of Mesa myself in 9 months
- (that's due in large part to the development tools on the NeXT.)
- Microsoft Excel only had 4 people on the team that did 2.2 (a very fine
- product in its day.) Any software company that has more than 5 people on
- a team developing any software product is stupid, mis-managed and deserves
- to go out of business. Three great programmers can write any application
- for any personal machine in one year. This is a total cost (assuming that
- the programmers are willing to take stock) of less than $200,000 for the
- development of any product.
-
- In the NeXT marketplace, a company should be able to go from concept to
- product on less than $500,000. This is a number too small for any venture
- firm. It's a figure that would allow the company to run on about $1M a
- year in sales (4,000 units at an average cost of $250), pay its bills, pay
- salary, grow a little, and pay back the investors.
-
- There is very little reason that software on the NeXT should cost much
- more than software on any other mass-market machine. The marketplace is
- big enough to support a small, well-run software start-up. Andrew Stone
- claims that this is the last marketplace where people can start in a
- garage. I don't know if I agree with that, but I do know that we can
- start in garages, produce good stuff, share it with the community and we
- can all be comfortable with the quality and quantity of software and
- revenue.
-
- As a historical note, Ashton-Tate, Lotus, Microsoft, Software Arts, and
- many other companies made their founders and backers very wealthy. They
- were all playing in a market with roughly the same number of machines as
- are in the NeXT market today. You don't need $4M in venture and $20M in
- annual sales to win in the software industry.
-
- Cheers,
-
- David
-
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- David Pollak - dpp@athena.com - NeXTMail Compliant
- Attorney at Law,
- Feeder of the Bears, Athena Design, Inc.
-