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- From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
- Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
- Message-ID: <ewright.714079437@convex.convex.com>
- Date: 17 Aug 92 19:23:57 GMT
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- In <1992Aug13.150734.18531@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sang J. Moon) writes:
-
- >At least with the state and federal agencies I've worked with, maintenance
- >is handled with companies so that a fee is paid ahead of time. This fee
- >covers all labor and hardware required for any product. The fee differs
- >between different companies, but there seems to be no distiction in cost
- >between servicing Mac or PC products.
-
- Is this surprising, given the contracting practices of Federal agencies?
-
-
- >Training is usually handled in-house by someone whose job is to do
- >training either for the mac or the PC. From my experience, training
- >and support costs are not significantly different between the PC or the Mac.
-
- Oh? Really? I can train someone to hook a second monitor to a Macintosh
- and configure the two screens to appear side by side on the desktop in
- (conservatively) five minutes. How long do you thing it would take you
- to train someone to do the same thing on a PC? Why don't you go out and
- try it. Go ahead, I'll wait. (Of course, that may mean we'll never hear
- from Mr. Moon again. :-)
-
-
- >I've had to service PCs and Macs and train people on both machines,
- >and I have encountered more than my share of problems on either machine.
-
- I've driven American automobiles and Japanese imports and I have
- encountered more than my share of problems with both. That doesn't
- mean that there's no difference in quality. A Toyota or Suzuki is
- better than a Chevy Vega, just as Macintosh is better than an IBM PC
- (or PC knockoff), the fact that all require occassional service work
- notwithstanding.
-
-
- >Windows was inferior to the Mac OS when it came out, but using Windows 3.1
- >on a 386-40 may impress many mac users if they gave it a chance.
-
- Yeah, sure. Running on a 32-bit 40-Mhz machine, Windows may impress
- many Mac users -- the ones who only own a Classic. In terms of speed,
- at least. Still, it won't take more than a quick look at the aesthetics
- and human engineering of the windows, menus, buttons, etc. to make even
- those users think, "what a piece of sh*t."
-
-
- >Of course, I have supported PCs and Macs most of my life, so I can handle
- >most problems that occur on either machine.
-
- Hm. Well, the Mac came out in '84, so it's now 8 years old. If you've
- been supporting Macs for "most of your life," that means you must be
- less than 16 years old (and started supporting Macs and PCs before age 8.)
- You seem to be quite a prodigy.
-
-
- >The initial investment needed for a Mac is definitely much higher than a pc,
- >but in the long run, the cost in time, software, and hardware for corresponding
- >systems is pretty much the same.
-
- Really? Last week, I saw a computer store selling Adobe Type Manager
- for the PC for $45. Mac users can get it free (well, almost free, $7
- shipping) by calling Adobe's 800 number. Here is yet another example
- to show: PCs cost too damn much!
-