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- From: rburns@key.COM (Randy Burns)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
- Subject: Re: Stabilizing Linux
- Message-ID: <3503@key.COM>
- Date: 17 Aug 92 18:54:34 GMT
- References: <1992Aug6.125441.22427@klaava.Helsinki.FI> <Bt1u3u.3zv@world.std.com> <1992Aug16.014647.19241@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
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- In article <1992Aug16.014647.19241@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, ericy@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eric Youngdale) writes:
- > In article <Bt1u3u.3zv@world.std.com> dsb@world.std.com (David Boyce) writes:
- > >To summarize: issuing releases is an incredible drag. Especially
- > >the ones after the first.
- I would agree.
-
- >
- > I think you may misunderstand the market. The "paying customers"
- > mainly want a source for linux that does not depend upon network access or a
- > modem.
- Well, I think it is a bit more subtle than this. A release independent of
- network/modem access is a nice first step. Now, for many folks though, this
- is really just a first step. Until I got Linux, it wasn't really practical
- for me to go ahead and purchase a fast modem and set it up for uucp.
-
- I'd expect to see some sigificant contributions to Linux coming from folks
- who initially setup Linux using CD/ROM and/or diskettes and then
-
- I may be putting my foot in my mouth on this one, but it would be nice
- if once CD-ROMs came out, BBS's and major linux sites would have source
- versions available as diff files so folks could periodically look
- for the changes in the areas they are most interested in.
-
- > My sense is that the CDROM manufacturers (at least the ones that I have
- > been in contact with) are not interested in a lot of release engineering.
- I expect this will change as the volume in Linux disks/CD-ROMS increases.
- Right now, there isn't much real potential volume in Linux disks/CD-ROMS
- compared to commercial products. I would expect this to change significantly
- over the next 6-12 months.
-
- > I
- > gather that they will take a snapshot of the tsx archives, and combine this
- > with a snapshot of a working linux system, put that on a disc and call that
- > Linux.
- IMHO, someone who Linus knows well in the US should look into making
- Linux a registered trade mark, to prevent someone else from doing so.
-
- > It also comes down to pricing.
- And volume. Last Time I checked, you could buy CD ROMS for
- $2/CD in quantities of 1000. The way I woul dlike to see these things
- packaged is within a nicely printed manual along with a boot & root disk
- (i.e. most CD ROMS last time I checked wouldn't support booting without
- special proms, but with the stuff Brian Gallew is doing, it should be
- possible with a little hacking to get the CD-ROM mounted using Linux
- in a minimal configuration. This would mean that in quantities of
- 1000, someone could get a manual printed, and a substantial OS distributed
- and in the bookstores for probably under $US 25.00 retail price- and it would
- be something that a typical user could take home and actually _use_ without
- resorting to DOS. I'd expect we are about 6-12 months away from this sort
- of thing.
-
- > Theoretically, someone may do the release engineering, and then
- > try and charge 500$ for the disc. They would certainly be allowed to under
- > the GPL, but they would have to compete with the 30$ disk.
- Well, also keep in mind that the availability of the bare CD-ROM does help
- the whole release engineering process along quite a bit.
-