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- From: Steve Cisler <sac@apple.com>
- Subject: Report on BBS Conference 8/13-16, Pt. 1 of 2
-
- Part 1 of 2
- At Play in the Field of the Boards: Report on ONE BBSCON
-
- copyright 1992 by Steve Cisler, Apple Library. All or part of this document
- may be redistributed free of charge in electronic format (disk, CD-ROM,
- online) by any party. Print re-distribution is allowed for personal use as
- well as non-profit. educational and government newsletters and
- journals. Please send email to the author when you do reprint or repost
- or quote from this report. Internet: sac@apple.com
-
- Denver, Colorado: August 13-16, 1992.
-
- Our plane punched down through the low clouds a half hour late and
- landed at Stapleton airport, just minutes from the Stouffer Hotel where
- all the activities for the Online Networking Exposition and BBS
- Convention were to take place. This was to be the first ecumenical
- gathering of bulletin board system operators (sysops), hardware and
- software vendors, and programmers that spanned the DOS, Unix, and
- Macintosh worlds. There had been annual meetings of Fidonet sysops,
- but the parent organization had folded even as the number of BBS
- systems continued to grow.
-
- Jack Rickard, President of ONE, Inc. and publisher of Boardwatch
- Magazine <jack.rickard@boardwatch.com> partnered up with Phil
- Becker, author of TBBS software, to organize a trade show for BBS
- operators that would be inexpensive enough to attract those running
- their boards as hobbies but with tutorials and panels with subjects that
- would attract the entrepreneurs who are working from their homes or
- small offices and those who have mounted and maintained successful
- business systems with four, eight, on up to 64 phone lines for their
- clients.
-
- Most of us in the online world are fairly stratified in our interests when it
- comes to networking and communications. There are MIS shops
- depending on minis and mainframes; there are the academic and
- research networks where NREN and the Internet is of paramount
- interest; there are consumer services which have been a continued failure
- when promoted and maintained by the regional phone companies and
- have been a mixed bag when we look at Prodigy, GEnie, CompuServe,
- and America Online. The online industry of BRS, Dialog, and Mead Data
- is trying to break out of its own mold and attract more than librarians and
- devoted professionals who need the high priced information and are
- willing to learn to tolerate difficult interfaces.
-
- The world of BBS systems, users, and sysops has never been validated by
- some of the mainstream opinion makers. Many of the operators and
- users have been outsiders, socially, politically, and even economically.
- ONE BBSCON brought many of these outsiders together for the first time,
- but it also attracted mainstream users who have found BBSes to be cost
- effective, easy to maintain (compared to other sorts of electronic systems),
- and extremely useful. The show put the spotlight on the "Industry" as
- Rickard and Becker hope it will become. BBS System vendors were on the
- organizing board, and there were tracks for the major DOS/Intel systems:
- Wildcat!, TBBS, PCBoard, MAJOR, and Searchlight as well as other
- operating systems such as Unix and Macintosh (the latter comprised less
- than 5% of the attendees). Other tracks were for legal and social issues,
- corporate and business applications, how to make money with a BBS, the
- Internet/NREN, Mail networks, and a technical track.
-
- The opening reception included just a sprinkling of ties, making me feel
- over-dressed in a sport coat. With the dress code set for the rest of the days
- ahead, I thumbed through the program and spoke with BBS and
- networking folks whom I had met online or at other conferences. Dave
- Hughes of Old Colorado City Communications <dave@well.sf.ca.us> and
- Frank Odasz of Big Sky Telegraph <frank@bigsky.dillon.mt.us> noted the
- lack of education tracks in the program, but with their participation in the
- program it became an important sub-theme. The range of activities
- people are involved in is indicative of the power and freedom to
- experiment that goes with cheap hardware, BBS software, and a
- reasonably priced public telephone network. A journalist from
- Albuquerque is running his paper's 16 line system which provide news to
- callers at no charge. Another team had just returned from Russia where
- they were helping set up a country-wide system using low-orbiting
- satellites for data transmission. An entrepreneur who had been sued by
- Playboy enterprises for vending GIF images of Playmates (and using that
- trademarked name in his BBS menus) without much thought of
- copyright was present.
-
- Day One At the opening session it was evident why this was going to be a
- successful conference and why BBSes would become an industry that
- would overshadow but not eliminate hobby uses of such systems: cheap
- 9600 bps modems, inexpensive 486 servers, and telephone systems that
- are not charging by measured use (as is done in many other countries).
- Phil Becker made a strong pitch for the BBS as a business tool for
- mainstream activities and belittled what he called the 'stupid niches' like
- Keith Wade's THE ANARCHIST GUIDE TO BBS. Clearly, Becker wanted
- to encourage mainstream business uses of this technology. They were
- impressive and diverse. Others like Tom Jennings (author of the
- extremely cheap and popular Fido software) sees the technology
- benefiting the outsiders: the fat, the handicapped, the socially inept, the
- disenfranchised, the radical, the non-mainstream. And of course, BBS
- technology can fill both Becker's and Jennings' very different visions, but
- Becker's was the one emphasized here.
-
- What I want to continue to emphasize in this report is the diversity of
- users, of models, of software, and of business models. Boardwatch
- estimates that there are 44,000 public systems (and many more private
- and corporate ones) in the U.S. The four vendors sitting on ONE, Inc.
- board claim to have an installed base of 50,000, and this excludes Fido, the
- most popular of all systems.
-
- The Keynote speech was given by John Dvorak who writes for many
- computer magazines, has co-authored a successful book on telecomms,
- and is often on the public speaker circuit. His columns are entertaining,
- opinionated and as Art Kleiner said in an old S.F. Bay Guardian article, he
- is a 'curmudgeon without a cause.' People who like to rattle cages can be
- good speakers and warm the crowd up for the ensuing events. However,
- Dvorak devoted so much time to self advertisements and plugging his
- books that it seemed he must have spent about 10 minutes thinking
- about some of the issues that needed addressing with regards to BBSes. A
- sprinkling of Dvorak comments: "get a fan for your 486 machines... OS/2
- is fun! (Windows is not)...the BBS community needs a lobbyist in each
- state; it's embarrassingly naive and should examine how it operates on
- different levels...Al Gore is the Dan Quayle of the Democratic Party...The
- porno boards are always under scrutiny by the govt. one way or another...
- Playboy images on a BBS has to be called fair use... BBSes cannot continue
- to allow slander on the boards. You have to clean up your act by
- self-policing.
-
- He also called for a constitutional amendment to protect electronic rights,
- but he did not know that constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe had
- proposed this in his keynote at Computers, Freedom, and Privacy 1
- eighteen months ago. On the one hand Dvorak pandered to
- anti-Congress sentiments in the crowd and then said to get involved in
- politics; yet he found the Perot candidacy a sham, including the electronic
- element.
-
- End of Part 1 of 2
- Part 2 of 2
- At Play in the Field of the Boards: Report on ONE BBSCON
-
- copyright 1992 by Steve Cisler, Apple Library. All or part of this document
- may be redistributed free of charge in electronic format (disk, CD-ROM,
- online) by any party. Print re-distribution is allowed for personal use as
- well as non-profit. educational and government newsletters and
- journals. Please send email to the author when you do reprint or repost
- or quote from this report. Internet: sac@apple.com
-
- Denver, Colorado: August 13-16, 1992.
-
-
- A Few of the One Hundred + Panels and Presentations
-
- I attended the Electronic Frontier Foundation program which filled up
- with an overflow from the Legal track where Lance Rose addressed many
- questions about the rights and responsibilities of sysops in an increasingly
- litigious and regulated environment. Shari Steel, a lawyer in the EFF
- Washington office, explained their activities and then answered
- questions which revealed the strong anti-Washington, anti-lawyer, anti
- regulation sentiments in the audience. It is evident that many sysops
- value the control they believe they have when they set up and run a
- bulletin board. Hearing about the FCC and Congressional efforts to change
- 'their' world made some people angry and made others want to organize.
- Steel handled their questions honestly and admitted when she did not
- have clear cut answers.
-
- Midway through the conference a group of software developers decided to
- organize to try and learn about existing standards before setting ones that
- would benefit their own developers and users. The three main areas
- include interface, messaging and document structure, and graphics.
- Surprisingly, some did not want to give up the diversity that is so evident
- in the many interfaces and message protocols, but most agreed to try and
- set an agenda via electronic mail and plan for other actions at the next
- conference. The Internet Engineering Task Force use of RFCs (Request for
- Comment) was held up as a model they would emulate. Few had patience
- and resources to set up a very slow-moving mechanism such as the ISO
- committees.
-
- Jim Warren moderated the panel on electronic democracy where most
- members were excited about the power of the tools. Gary Stryker of
- Galacticom proposed a system called SuperDemocracy which would
- include continuous electronic voting on issues in a hierarchy by
- geographical region. Shari Steel reminded the group how many did not
- have computers or modems, and that electronic democracy would
- exclude many potential voters. Gary Nakarado, a PUC commissioner in
- Colorado started a BBS to learn more about the medium and to be in
- touch with the interesting people in his community. Unfortunately, they
- have not been logging in. PUC activities attract very little attention and
- he has very few calls and questions from the general public. He is
- interested in having more input on issues such as ISDN service, BBSes,
- and other issues affecting Colorado utility users.
-
- Bernard Aboba, author of BBSes and Beyond , talked about the software
- for connecting Macs to the global mail networks (RIME, Fido, Internet,
- uucp) and it was evident that the Mac is a terrific front end for many
- systems, but as a server it needs more power and more tools from third
- parties. Developers from ResNova 714 840 6082 showed how their Mac
- BBS software could fill the gaps, as did a rep. from SoftArc 416 299 4723.
- SoftArc's FirstClass server and client software looked very powerful and
- full of features that would allow a FirstClass BBS to serve many
- concurrent users on LAN, dialup and TCP/IP access. All of the
- companies are quite small, and the wish lists of new features grows faster
- than the staff to work on them, but I was amazed at the power and
- sophistication of the DOS and Mac BBS systems. Event Horizons, the BBS
- vending adult GIF images south of Portland, Oregon, has a 64 line 80486
- system running on TBBS! Other systems running multiple cpus have a
- hundred or more lines coming in. Clearly, these are not basement run,
- part time operations.
-
- Diversity
- One morning I went down to comb the literature tables and read the cork
- bulletin board where a variety of fascinating notes had been posted. They
- will give you a sense of the diversity in this community:
-
- -Monterey Gaming System 408 655 5555 (free)
-
- -Black Cat Information Service in Rochester NY 716 262 3680 (Visa/MC
- accepted!) Games, Society for Creative Anachronism files and Adult Info
-
- -the Zoo...an electric safari. your tour guide: Chuck 2. 312 907 1831 to 1839.
-
- -The OU BBS, University of Oklahoma (telnet oubbs,telecom.uoknor.edu)
-
- -Power Windows! BBS (also for OS/2 users) Huntsville, AL 205 881 8619
-
- -The Invention Factory, (NY, NY) 212 274 8110
-
- -The Online Diver (Brooklyn Center, MN) 566 5267 No area code must
- indicate that it's for local Minnesota divers primarily.
-
- -Nautilus Commercial Data System with 250,000 public domain files, 200
- incoming data lines (!), 28 gigabytes of storage, satellite weather images,
- hourly news updates, games, dBase templates, GIF images---all out of Iola,
- Kansas 316 365 7631.
-
- -Infinity Complex "a wickedly addictive Science Fiction game for MAJOR
- BBS systems. Infinity Complex puts your users in a bizarre arena of the
- future, where they must battle for their very lives...and use up a lot of
- online hours in the process!" 403 476 8369 (voice)
-
- -an ad for the first annual Puget Sound (WA) BBS convention (no phone
- contact)
-
- -ads for serial port boards, new BBS software, consulting services, and
- calls for source code for data compression.
-
- -BAWIT Bay Area Women in Telecom for working women in
- telecommunications in the San Francisco area. Contact
- bawitrequest@igc.apc.org.
-
- -Make your own custom CD-ROM for $199. Up to 640 mb. ISO 9660. 800 762.
-
- Internet and NREN There was a lot of interest in Internet/NREN issues,
- but only a few people knew much about them. The panels on Internet
- connectivity, legislation, and interfaces drew good sized crowds but
- needed more basic information in a standard presentation format before
- having Q&A. BBSes can be a good interface for people going on to the
- Internet. It provides a way of formatting and filtering the anarchy of the
- Internet, even as it offers occasion for excess control of what a caller can
- see and use. I spent more time showing resources using Mac-based
- interfaces than talking about the intricacies of the growth of NREN in my
- session which was included in the small Macintosh track rather than the
- larger Internet track. I also participated in a graphics discussion where the
- panelists discussed GIF (the CompuServe standard so popular on BBSes
- and the Internet), NAPLPS (which is good for multi-lingual
- communications and small vector-based images), JPEG (the compression
- du jour that may displace GIF and the one that the Smithsonian and
- Apple are touting for Project Chapman), and FIF (fractal image format
- which is a more efficient proprietary algorithm than JPEG but which takes
- a long time to compress).
-
- Summary The BBS world is changing, growing, exploding. Jack Rickard
- has provided good coverage in his magazine, and his conference was a big
- success and and a very good value considering the amount of fine food
- that was included with the conference activities. If you are not in the BBS
- world, and even if you are, it's hard to be aware of the activity because it
- is so distributed. This conference helped immensely. I think that Rickard
- will have to face a problem of success: will he continue to be the lively
- and opinionated journalist when his magazine and his conference
- become the focus of the whole industry and a possible industry
- association? He may have to defend actions when he should be exposing
- them, but that is looking a couple of years ahead. Right now, there is no
- way to go but up and out because of the growing interest in this medium
- of information dissemination and of personal communication. A BBS
- provides both sysops and users an enormous amount of leverage, and the
- library world should take notice more than it does. One prominent public
- librarian who is quite involved in electronic dissemination of
- information remarked to me a few years ago that it would be great if
- BBSes just went away. I have heard other dismissive or even snobbish
- comments about BBSes, but the four librarians whom I met at ONE
- BBSCON all realized this is foolish. It's not the only tool to use, but it can
- be a very important one.
-
- Contacts mentioned in the text: people and products
-
- Gary Nakarado, Colorado Public Utilities commissioner
- <nakarado@well.sf.ca.us> 303 526 5505 is his BBS number.
- NAPLPS: North American Presentation Level Protocol Syntax. Dave
- Hughes <dave@oldcolo.com or dave@well.sf.ca.us>
- Fractal compression: Fracterm, Inc. in Richmond, BC 800-676-3111
- GIF: CompuServe Art Gallery and various browsers at ftp sites
- JPEG: mail jpeg-info@uunet.uu.net or contact sac@apple.com
- Boardwatch Magazine: 303 973 6038 or jack.rickard@boardwatch.com
- TBBS software: eSoft 303 699 6565
- SuperDemocracy Foundation: 305 583 5990
- Bernard Aboba: BMUG, Inc., 510 547 0345
- Jim Warren (electronic democracy): jwarren@well.sf.ca.us
- Electronic Frontier Foundation: eff@eff.org
- Lance Rose (legal issues): author of Syslaw a legal guide to the rights and
- responsibilities of sysops.
- Laurence H. Tribe, "The Constitution in Cyberspace" anonymous ftp from
- ftp.apple.com in the /ftp/alug/rights directory 49 kb.
-
- End of part 2 of 2
-