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- Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:20:13 +0200
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- From: Oded Maler <Oded.Maler@IRISA.FR>
- Subject: High-level disturbances; Ideology
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- [From Oded Maler 920814]
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- (Bill Powers (920813.1400)) -
-
- I agree with most of what you say. There's a sub-sub-branch of AI
- called "Reactive planning" dealing with planning in a non-static
- world. It seems that *in principle* they might pass you legitimacy
- tests even though their building blocks are abstract actions.
- Of course, no one knows yet how to implement it for large-scale
- problems since servoing in this abstract space is not understood
- ("If you can't beat it - smash it"..) as we agreed a long ago
- while discussing "qualitative" control.
-
- I still reiterate the rhetoric question whether for some reason
- it is harder in a non-grounded abstract space than in an abstract
- space where the percepts and actions are realized by lower-level
- ones. And if so, how?
-
-
- (Rick Marken (920812)) -
-
- Ok. You make your position very clear. So the next time something like
- Beer's work or another is discussed, your claim should not be that
- they are wrong but that they are working on non-interesting problems
- (for you).
-
- Perhaps my knowledge of PCT is so preliminary so I would be less
- determined and not be so sure which behavior is generated for the
- "right underlying reasons" and which is not. It is also not
- self-evident at all that a world where all people know what control is
- will be a better one - but anyway I'm not interested in Ideology
- (unless I'm in a historical museum).
-
-
- Best regards
-
- --Oded
-