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- Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
- Path: sparky!uunet!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!eff!eff-gate!usenet
- From: sbrack@jupiter.cse.UTOLEDO.edu (Steven S. Brack)
- Subject: Re: [news.admin.policy] Re: Groups used to distribute illegal material
- Message-ID: <9208151650.AA21706@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu>
- Originator: daemon@eff.org
- Sender: sbrack@jupiter.cse.UTOLEDO.edu
- Nntp-Posting-Host: eff.org
- Organization: EFF mail-news gateway
- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 08:50:40 GMT
- Approved: usenet@eff.org
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- From:
- : Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
- : From: neuhaus@vier.informatik.uni-kl.de (Stephan Neuhaus (HiWi Mattern))
- : Subject: Re: Groups used to distribute illegal material
- : Message-ID: <neuhaus.713788374@vier>
- : Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:32:54 GMT
- :
- : If a University or company offers a news feed, it is offering a
- : *service*. Usenet is not yet a right, it's a privilege. A University
- : or company has every right to control how their computers are used.
- : After all, they belong to the University or company, not to the
- : students or employees.
-
- And who owns a public university? The people. The students.
- The employees. A University has no business making decisions
- about what to keep on its system based strictly on content.
-
- : In analogy, a newsstand does not have to carry
- : each and every available newspaper or magazine. If I, as the
- : newsstand's owner, find magazines containing porno photos, fascist
- : propaganda, leftist propaganda, etc. unacceptable, I will not sell
- : those magazines which will probably only take up shelf space anyway.
-
- University's are not information salesplaces. They are public
- resources. The public *must* be able to execute control over
- the activities & affairs of the University.
-
- : This does not mean that anybody should read (private) email, by the
- : way. Once a service like mail is offered, it must be available in a
- : secure and unoppressive manner. For example, I believe it's OK for a
- : University or company to cancel certain newsgroups, but students or
- : employees must not be punished for reading any group once it's
- : available, and tracing who reads which newsgroups must not be done.
-
- If I own a mail box, and mail gets delivered to it, by your
- argument, I have a right to open it and decide whether to pass it
- to its intended recipient or not. After all, if it's not important
- to me, it's only taking up space.
-
- : In direct answer to the original poster, I believe you should not
- : play God yourself and simply cancel the groups. You should ask for an
- : official policy, if only to get your head out of the sling. If you
- : cancelled newsgroups at your own will, that would be arbitrary and
- : despotic, even if those groups carried copyrighted or otherwise
- : illegally published material.
-
- If you cancelled newsgroups at all, based solely on their content,
- you would be performing an act many, if not most, people consider
- highly unethical.
-
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