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- From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
- Newsgroups: news.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,misc.legal,alt.censorship
- Subject: Re: Groups used to distribute illegal material
- Message-ID: <1992Aug13.180458.9340@m.cs.uiuc.edu>
- Date: 13 Aug 92 18:04:58 GMT
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- Sender: news@m.cs.uiuc.edu (News Database (admin-Mike Schwager))
- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
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- [A reply to an article in news.admin.policy]
-
- jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
-
- [...]
- >much of the material posted
- >to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica is _illegal_ and therefor quite hard
- >to defend. (The illegality of this material stems from the fact that
- >much of it is distributed in violation of copyright -- this means
- >that it is illegal not only in the U.S., but in most of the world.
- [...]
-
- In my opinion, it is ok to exclude a newsgroup if it is illegal. I
- think this position is supported by library policies. They say that 1)
- laws should be obeyed 2) legal advice should obtained from compete
- sources 3) restrictive laws should be challenged (with legal means) 4)
- and that challenged material should be given due process.
-
- Also note that in the U.S., material is not obscene unless when taken
- as a whole, it lacks "serious literary, artistic, political, or
- scientific value". In my opinion, alt.sex etc., when taken as a whole,
- have such value. Copyright and libel laws don't use the "taken as a
- whole" test. However, the case law suggests that if you don't know
- (and can't reasonably be expected to know) about the violations, you
- are not responsible for them.
-
- As an example of what not to do, consider Iowa State University. It
- decided to restrict alt.sex without previous notice or discussion.
- When challenged it justified its action by referring to an obscenity
- law that 1) says alt.sex is not obscene and 2) explicitly exempts
- educational institutions.
-
- I'm enclosing quotes from library polices, followed by on-line
- references and information about the Computers and Academic Freedom
- mailing list.
-
- - Carl
-
- ================ Quotes from Library Policies =====================
- From the American Library Associations Diversity in Collection
- Development interpretation:
-
- "Librarians have a professional responsibility to be inclusive, not exclusive,
- in collection development and in the provision of interlibrary loan. Access
- to all materials legally obtainable should be assured to the user, and
- policies should not unjustly exclude materials even if they are offensive to
- the librarian or the user."
-
- From the American Library Association's Intellectual Freedom Statement:
-
- "4. With every available legal means, we will challenge laws or
- governmental action restricting or prohibiting the publication of
- certain materials or limiting free access to such materials.
-
- Our society has no place for legislative efforts to coerce the taste
- of its members, to restrict adults to reading matter deemed suitable
- only for children, or to inhibit the efforts of creative persons in
- their attempts to achieve artistic perfection. When we prevent serious
- artists from dealing with truth as they see it, we stifle creative
- endeavor at its source. Those who direct and control the intellectual
- development of our children -- parents, teachers, religious leaders,
- scientists, philosophers, statesman -- must assume the responsibility
- for preparing young people to cope with life as it is and to face the
- diversity of experience to which they will be exposed as they mature.
- This is an affirmative responsibility that cannot be discharged
- easily, certainly not with the added burden of curtailing one's access
- to art, literature, and opinion. Tastes differ. Taste, like morality,
- cannot be controlled by government, for governmental action, devised
- to suit the demands of one group, thereby limits the freedom of all
- others."
-
- From the American Library Association's Statement on Labeling:
-
- "While some attempts have been made to adopt these [labeling] systems
- into law, the constitutionality of such measures is extremely
- questionable. If such legislation is passed which applies within a
- library's jurisdiction, the library should seek competent legal advice
- concerning its applicability to library operations."
-
- From the ALA's Access for Children and Young People to Videotapes
- and Other Nonprint Formats interpretation:
-
- "Unless directly and specifically prohibited by law from circulating
- certain motion pictures and video productions to minors, librarians
- should apply the same standards to circulation of these materials as
- are applied to books and other materials."
-
- From the ALA's Library Bill of Rights:
-
- "3. Libraries should challenge censorship in the fulfillment of their
- responsibility to provide information and enlightenment."
-
- From the ALA's Challenged Materials interpreation:
-
- "Freedom of expression is protected by the Constitution of the United
- States, but constitutionally protected expression is often separated
- from unprotected expression only by a dim and uncertain line. The
- Constitution requires a procedure designed to focus searchingly on
- challenged expression before it can be suppressed. An adversary
- hearing is a part of this procedure."
-
- ANNOTATED REFERENCES
-
- (All these documents are available on-line. Access information follows.)
-
- =================
- faq/netnews.liability
- =================
- Why a University may not decrease (and my increase) its likely
- liability by screening Netnews for offensive articles and newsgroups.
-
- =================
- library/diversity.ala
- =================
- "Diversity in Collection Development"
-
- An interpretation by the American Library Association of the "Library
- Bill of Rights"
-
- It says that collections should be inclusive, not exclusive. And that
- materials should cover the needs and interest of all patrons. "This
- includes materials that reflect political, economic, religious,
- social, minority, and sexual issues."
-
-
- =================
- library/int-freedom.ala
- =================
- "Intellectual Freedom Statement"
-
- An interpretation by the American Library Association of the "Library
- Bill of Rights"
-
- =================
- library/labeling.ala
- =================
- "Statement on Labeling"
-
- An interpretation by the American Library Association of the "Library
- Bill of Rights"
-
- It gives three reasons why labeling is bad. The first is that
- "[l]abeling is an attempt to prejudice attitudes and as such, it is a
- censor's tool."
-
- =================
- library/access.children.nonprint.ala
- =================
- "Access for Children and Young People to Videotapes and Other Nonprint
- Formats"
-
- An interpretation by the American Library Association of the "Library
- Bill of Rights"
-
- =================
- library/bill-of-rights.ala
- =================
- The Library Bill of Rights from the American Library Association.
-
- =================
- library/challenged-materials.ala
- =================
- "Challenged Materials"
-
- An interpretation by the American Library Association of the "Library
- Bill of Rights"
-
- =================
- law/obscenity.iowa
- =================
- IOWA CODE CHAPTER 728 - OBSCENITY
- It explicitly exempts public libraries and educational institutions.
-
- =================
- caf
- =================
- A description to the comp-academic-freedom-talk mailing list. It is a
- free-forum for the discussion of questions such as: How should general
- principles of academic freedom (such as freedom of expression, freedom
- to read, due process, and privacy) be applied to university computers
- and networks? How are these principles actually being applied? How can
- the principles of academic freedom as applied to computers and
- networks be defended?
-
- =================
- =================
-
- These document(s) are available by anonymous ftp (the preferred
- method) and by email. To get the file(s) via ftp, do an anonymous ftp
- to ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4), and get file(s):
-
- pub/academic/faq/netnews.liability
- pub/academic/library/diversity.ala
- pub/academic/library/int-freedom.ala
- pub/academic/library/labeling.ala
- pub/academic/library/access.children.nonprint.ala
- pub/academic/library/bill-of-rights.ala
- pub/academic/library/challenged-materials.ala
- pub/academic/law/obscenity.iowa
- pub/academic/caf
-
- To get the file(s) by email, send email to archive-server@eff.org.
- Include the line(s) (be sure to include the space before the file
- name):
-
- send acad-freedom/faq netnews.liability
- send acad-freedom/library diversity.ala
- send acad-freedom/library int-freedom.ala
- send acad-freedom/library labeling.ala
- send acad-freedom/library access.children.nonprint.ala
- send acad-freedom/library bill-of-rights.ala
- send acad-freedom/library challenged-materials.ala
- send acad-freedom/law obscenity.iowa
- send acad-freedom caf
- --
- Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
-