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- FILE NO. 009
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- I N V A S I O N O F T H E M I N D W R E C K E R S
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- In the hidden depths of the Nevada Military Complex a battle
- is raging. Few know just how long it has been going on.
- Apparently it began several years ago when the Nevada Test Site
- workers discovered vast subterranean cavities deep underground,
- possibly as a result of the underground nuclear blasts which had
- artificially excavated huge cavities deep below the surface.
- This activity apparently corresponded with the same general
- time-period when the U.S. Secret Government was making deals with
- the "Grays", establishing secret locations such as S-4 to study
- alien craft that had crashed, and constructing environmental
- enclosures for some of the 'few' alien beings that had been
- apprehended alive. Much of this activity allegedly took place
- and is taking place within the extreme high-security areas on and
- below the Nevada Military Complex.
- However, the reports now coming out of the 'Complex' suggest
- that far more of the alien grays, and even their reptilian
- overlords, are involved with the activities taking place in
- Nevada than even a few alien survivors of crashed disks could
- account for. Many accounts have spoken of vast caverns below the
- southern Nevada region which have allegedly been the lairs of
- reptilian hominoids for centuries. All the accounts point to
- only one possible conclusion: That the Test Site workers broke
- into the native habitat of these reptilian beings, or a system of
- caverns which the reptilians had taken control of in the past,
- and as a result of the coincidental "treaties" which the
- governments were making with the saurian Grays (which they
- suspected originated from other-stellar regions), a secret treaty
- was made with this underground race as well, whether out of
- necessity or desire. Most of the "workers" would not be aware of
- the alien activity taking place in these extremely lower levels
- due to the higher security clearances necessary to enter or even
- know of them. This could explain the confusion which seems to
- exist there, and the comments made by workers there that
- 'everything is way out of control'. It might also explain the
- comments made by others 'in the know' who have suggested that the
- government is in a panic since they have learned that the sauroid
- "aliens from other stars" have infiltrated and undermined the
- surface of the earth without us even knowing it, and that this is
- why they are in such confusion, why they are rushing head-long to
- develop weapons such as 'Excalibur' to destroy subterranean alien
- strongholds, and so on. In the movie 'THEY LIVE', which depicted
- an infiltration of human society utilizing underground 'bases'
- beneath major cities, one of the "human resistance" members asks:
- "How long have they been here?" Later he comes to realize...
- "Maybe they've always been here!" Perhaps the reason behind
- the supposed alien infestation and undermining of the cavernous
- depths of the earth could be explained by the possibility that
- they have ALWAYS been here, or have been for some time. Do not
- accounts of reptilian hominoids date back to prehistoric times
- when the dinosaurs walked the surface of the earth? Keep this
- possibility in mind when trying to fit the following accounts
- into your framework of reality. Is it possible that a
- subterranean race, working closely with others of their kind
- which long ago left the earth for extraterrestrial realms, is
- staging (via subversion, implantation, disinformation, coversion,
- implantation and infiltration) a takeover of human society FROM
- ABOVE AND BELOW?
-
- The following is a transcript of an interview which took
- place between a Radio host by the name of Chuck Harder and George
- Knapp, a journalist for KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, Nevada. The
- transcript of the interview appeared in 'FOR THE PEOPLE'
- Magazine, and because of it's obviously remarkable nature,
- including the large number of well-known people involved, we will
- record the majority of the interview here:
-
- CHUCK HARDER: "...My guest has (now) called in and I'm going
- to run down who he is and where he's from for a number of
- reasons, some of them for his own protection. George, are you
- there..."
- GEORGE KNAPP: "Hello Chuck"
- CH: "Please tell us, you are George Knapp, right..."
- GK: "That's right"
- CH: "George, what do you do for a living?"
- GK: "I'm a journalist with KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, the CBS
- affiliate here."
- CH: "So you are a TV newsman..."
- GK: "Right"
- CH: And you work for Channel 18, KLAS-TV in Las Vegas,
- Nevada..."
- GK: "Right"
- CH: "I understand that you have come upon some very
- interesting information and you've done some special reports,
- could you tell us about it...?"
- GK: "Well we just finished a nine-part series - what may be
- the longest series that's ever been done on this subject dealing
- with UFO's.
- "Our research actually started about two and a half years
- ago, a fellow named John Lear, the son of the guy who invented
- the Lear Jet brought some of this information to our attention.
- In May of this year, Mr. Lear introduced us to a fellow who
- claims to have worked at a secret base designated S-4...on a top-
- secret Nevada test site... the fellow said that he worked on
- 'flying saucers', that the technology was not from Earth, and we
- interviewed him live in silhouette in May, the response was
- incredible...we got response from Japan, parts of that interview
- aired on radio in Europe, and six different European countries...
- so we decided with this much interest we might want to take a
- look at the subject more in depth.
- "We started doing that and the first thing we found out is
- that really UFO's have not been given a fair shake by science, by
- government, by religion and especially by journalism. Millions
- of people have seen UFO's, millions more believe (in them)... I
- think the latest Gallup poll shows about 70 percent of college-
- educated Americans believe that there's something to it, but
- because of the tabloid aspects... 'The Girl Who Gives Birth to 52
- UFO Babies' - kind of things in the NATIONAL ENQUIRER, people
- have shied away from it... Serious people have shied away.
- Scientists, although they might be interested in searching the
- universe for radio signals really don't want to look in their own
- back years - they can't get grants...people would laugh at them.
- Journalism - the coverage is generally condescending and quirky,
- especially by the networks, as in the coverage of the UFO that
- supposedly landed in the USSR, people making fun of it... so, we
- figured out that millions of people want to know as Roy Neary the
- guy in the, 'CLOSE ENCOUNTERS' movie said, 'What's going on?' So
- we started investigating it. The focal point of the story being
- this fellow who said he worked at Los Alamos National Labs and
- they said they never heard of him. We called MIT where he says
- he went to school and they never heard of him. We called for his
- birth records and they had disappeared... as if someone was
- trying to make him a non-person. We did however confirm some of
- the information that he had given us... we found newspaper
- articles from Los Alamos indicating that he had indeed worked
- there...we found an old telephone book from the lab with his name
- in it, which gave him a certain amount of credibility in our
- eyes. The story he tells is an incredible one. He was hired to
- work at this area called S-4 on the test site, he was flown up to
- a place called Groom Lake - taken by bus with no windows to S-
- 4... the base is built almost to look like it's part of the
- desert with sand covering hanger doors, he goes inside and he
- starts reading these briefing papers dealing with UFO's!
- Pictures of UFO's on the walls, pictures of aliens, autopsy
- reports on alien bodies...things of this nature - he's pretty
- amazed. Then he sees the disks. He says there are nine of the
- disks up there, they are powered by an anti-matter reactor which
- produces it's own gravitational field...technology that does not
- exist on this planet, and the interesting thing...he thought for
- a while that perhaps it was just an advanced secret scientific
- project that our government is pursuing until he looked inside
- one of the disks and noticed the small furniture...all the chairs
- were built like (they were made) for children. And then things
- started coming together for him. Are you with me Chuck?"
- CH: "I'm listening..."
- GK: "Er, I'm not sure how much detail you want me to go in
- on..."
- CH: "Oh, I think you ought to keep going..."
- GK: "Well this fellow was up there only a few months. And
- it was a rough place to work... the security was so hard and he
- was being harassed at home, his phone being tapped... plus he's
- on to what he thinks are the secrets of the universe...he starts
- to tell other people about it, confide with close friends."
- CH: "Ummmm."
- GK: "He had the date of a couple of tests and on two
- consecutive weekends he took people up to the desert outside of
- the boundaries of area S-4, and they videotaped the
- saucers...what looks like a saucer coming over the mountains!"
- CH: "Wow"
- GK: "We showed the video as well..."
- CH: "Um huhmm..."
- GK: "Five different people that we interviewed that had gone
- up there confirmed the same story...we also had confirmation of
- other bits of his story from other people, a former security
- guard who worked up there... who said he had seen the saucers; a
- former technician..."
- CH: "By the way, excuse me, I have some letters from some
- people postmarked from that area, one inside a base, who tells me
- what your saying is true. Keep going."
- GK: "Ah, we also found a Nellis Airman who had been on radar
- duty at Nellis air base which is just south of the area that this
- fellow is talking about...he reported numerous times seeing..."
- CH: "George, excuse me...let me do the half hour news break.
- I want you to tell your story, I want America to hear it...Please
- stand by."
- (At this point SUN RADIO NETWORK runs the half hour news
- headlines and sports audio package from UPI. After the news the
- guest is re-introduced for listeners who may have just tuned
- in...)
- CH: "How many reports did you do, George?"
- GK: "We did nine total in this series."
- CH: "OK, now at the time we went to the news on the half
- hour you told me that a scientist named Bob Lazar..."
- GK: "Right"
- CH: "OK, (he) came to tell you and came to the public and
- apparently was concerned for his safety because he wanted to tell
- America or get the news out that - yes, the Federal Government
- has nine saucers, and yes they are near...it's near Nellis, is it
- not?"
- GK: "Yes."
- CH: "Cause I have letters from people who are at Nellis.
- Some of which don't want to give their names, I have the
- postmarks. Tell us now if you would, start the story from the
- fact that the gentleman has revealed that there are nine of these
- things. We're listening and so is America."
- GK: "Well we wanted to try to confirm as much of his story
- as possible for other sources of course, so we started looking
- for other people who might have knowledge of what's going on up
- there...as I mentioned, I found a former security guard who said
- that he had seen the saucers up there, I found a Nellis airman
- who had worked in radar and said that basically he and his fellow
- airman has seen these things flying over the Groom Mountains at
- speeds up to 7,000 miles per hour on radar...these things would
- stop on a dime, so the guy knew that this is not your average
- airplane that's doing this. We also interviewed the other people
- who went with Lazar up on two consecutive weeks, they test them
- on Wednesdays for some reason, and videotaped the tests, saw
- these things flying over the mountains and confirmed his story as
- well. We put these questions to the Navy, who Lazar says he
- worked for up there - we made FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT requests
- as well - so I don't put a lot of faith in the FOI requests."
- CH: "In other words what you're saying is that your
- organization which is KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, plus many other UFO
- research groups have uncovered many UFO documents that the
- government says, 'Yeah we got them and yeah it's true'...but then
- when you ask them again they say, 'No we don't have them'".
- GK: "Exactly...that's exactly correct!"
- CH: "I understand from MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) and many
- other groups that there are somewhere from four to seven thousand
- documents that prove that...yes these things exist, copies of the
- documents are in private hands, then you go and ask the
- government and they say, 'Well, er, no we don't remember...'"
- GK: "The government says that they have done these studies
- that say that UFO's are no threat to national security, they're
- either psychological aberrations, which means that people are
- nuts when they see them, that's what they feed the public...but
- behind the scenes they are very concerned about the national
- security implications of UFO's that land at nuclear missile bases
- and can't be caught, things of that nature. So the government
- from what I've read is very concerned about the phenomena and
- doesn't understand it. The government on the other hand has
- outright lied concerning what information it does have...the CIA
- for example says it doesn't collect any information on
- UFO's...well that's just patently not true. We have documents
- from the CIA, a lot of it is blacked out, which mentions UFO
- studies by the CIA, UFO research, CIA-UFO experts, agency
- personnel who are monitoring the phenomenon, so they have lied to
- us all along. I didn't expect to get any confirmation regarding
- what Lazar has to say, but had to give it a try anyway."
- CH: "Before we went to the half-hour break you said that
- when he looked inside one of these discs there were little
- furniture, give me some information..."
- GK: "Well he feels that they were bringing him along, giving
- him a piece at a time. He would see a saucer one day, the next
- he would see the hanger doors open and see all nine of
- them...after that he got to see the inside of the thing. He also
- got to see a demonstration of it. He was told to stand back and
- watch this...and the thing lights up real bright...I guess the
- power that's produced is incredible, you need to produce your own
- gravitational field, and it raised up, did a couple maneuvers and
- sat back down. Part of the reason he came forward, not to spill
- the secrets of the universe or the government, but because the
- research that's being done up there is being handled in a clumsy
- fashion. If they have had these for as long of forty years,
- which is what he believes, they haven't come too far in trying to
- understand them. Some of the disks he said he saw up there were
- being taken apart, kind of a reverse archeology process to figure
- out how they worked. Some of the research going on up there is
- aimed at trying to duplicate the things that these machines can
- do using earth technologies and earth materials and he says it
- just can't be done. The key to the flying of these things is
- something he calls 'Element 115' (elsewhere Lazar stated that
- this is an extremely 'heavy' element - Branton)...it does not
- exist on our periodic charts, he believes that wherever it came
- from it's a naturally occurring element, he says we have 500
- pounds of the stuff up there, just a little tiny sliver of it
- produces incredible amounts of power. It's the '115' that we
- will not be able to duplicate so he thinks...one of the reasons
- he came forward is because scientists all over the world are
- working, putting their energy into trying to master the secrets
- of gravity and the secrets of anti-matter technology and here
- we've got it up there and they're not doing a very good job with
- it - this little batch of scientists hidden in the desert are
- trying to figure it out and not doing a very good job..."
- CH: "But this is kind of common with the United States...I
- read five newspapers a day and I'll find where one group in one
- part of the country is working on a project and I'll get a
- clipping where another group is working on the same project, I've
- contacted them and they don't know each other!"
- GK: "Yeah, yeah - that's exactly right...he said
- compartmentalization up there was very severe as well so that
- nobody had the full picture - I guess so nobody could spill the
- beans as he has been trying to do."
- CH: "All right, what does he feel the public should know and
- what does he feel should be done?"
- GK: "Well, he's not on a campaign, what he really wanted to
- do was to save his own life. He started having some problems
- when it became obvious to his employers that he was telling
- someone else about this."
- CH: "We're talking about Bob Lazar now..."
- GK: "Bob Lazar...his phone being tapped, people visiting
- him, calling him up with a single word message - DEAD - then they
- hang up! He tried to arrange meetings with his former supervisor
- and the meetings didn't come off, he says somebody took a shot at
- him on the freeway...obviously he realizes that if they really
- wanted to kill him, they could. Maybe perhaps they were just
- trying to shut him up. He feels that what is going on up there
- is a crime against the entire scientific community...not only the
- American people because we don't know what's going on and we
- haven't been told alien technology exists, but also against the
- scientific community. So, what else can I tell ya?"
- CH: "What does he say about the aliens?"
- GK: "He's reluctant to talk about that, apparently he did
- see some aliens up there..."
- CH: "Excuse me, are you telling me there were live aliens?"
- GK: "Yeah, he's kind of sketchy on the details of that, and
- I don't think I should go much further on that...part of the
- discussion until I can talk to him, but he has indications that
- there are aliens up there, at least one..."
- CH: "Live?"
- GK: "Yeah, it's pretty wild, I know and I didn't include
- that in our reports because I couldn't confirm anything of that
- nature, I couldn't find anyone else who had seen them up there
- so..."
- CH: "What did they look like?"
- GK: "Your classic Grey...the little big-headed almond-eyed
- grey-skinned being...the same ones in the classic descriptions of
- the UFO literature...he's kind of squeamish talking about it as
- well because it sounds so crazy..."
- CH: "I don't think it's crazy at all, there was an article
- yesterday on the front page of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL where the
- FDA... stopped all the grapes from Chile last March... apparently
- somebody laced two of the grapes with cyanide a couple hours
- before the FDA stumbled on them and it was in inside job
- apparently while the grapes were in the inspection station...and
- it was not done on the way, so somebody's lying there - we're
- talking of two little grapes that almost bankrupted the country
- of Chile! If two little grapes... and such a story hits the
- front page of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL about the truthfulness and
- what happened with the FDA, what about this...how would this ever
- get out if they would cover up a story about TWO LITTLE GRAPES!"
- GK: "Well, I tell you we ask the question, the obvious
- question, if this is true how can the government keep this a
- secret all this time? A story this big - the government leaks
- like a sieve on other things, how could the cover-up exist?"
- CH: "Oh, I'll tell you..."
- GK: "To which Lazar responds, this is the easiest...and he
- asked the question to his superiors up there, it's the easiest
- thing in the world to keep a secret because if it does come out,
- little bits and pieces, who's going to believe it!"
- CH: "Exactly...let me, you remember the Condon Report, do
- you not?"
- GK: "Yes..."
- CH: "For those who are listening, I got into this
- investigation because I kept getting letters from our listeners
- who said, Chuck you ought to investigate this... we've
- investigated many things in the past such as the GM Diesel cover-
- up; we're working on a pay-phone cover-up; we've done things with
- Ralph Nader...and so on. So we started buying the books and
- contacting UFO organizations. I then found that there was a guy
- named Phil Klass who was always there... somehow he was always
- there and he said that everything was BUNK! and of course, he
- works for the AVIATION WEEK magazine which is of course... the
- mouthpiece for the Military/Industrial complex and they certainly
- wouldn't want this technology to be out! I was also amazed when
- I saw the stealth bomber (tests) live on CNN one Saturday and a
- small plane landed at the same place, (runway) do you remember
- that...?"
- GK: "Yes..."
- CH: "My question is: If the Stealth Bomber was so super
- secret, how could a man and his child land their little tiny
- plane on the same runway at a super secret airforce base? How
- could he have pierced the radar and fighter jets and so forth?
- My feeling was, probably the Stealth Bomber was obsolete and
- nobody was watching!"
- GK: "Yeah, I'd have to agree with you, because the secrecy
- up there...the only thing that comes out of that place is what
- they want out of it."
- CH: "So what your talking about then, since the Condon
- committee, Phil Klass and all of the spokespeople who are
- supposed to know everything, what you are saying is the ridicule
- factor... if Billy Bob sees a flying saucer and even has a photo
- of it and takes it to the paper, everybody laughs at him!"
- GK: "There are actual documents the government has released
- (under the Freedom of Information Act) that shows it is an actual
- program that started back in the fifties...the CIA even used the
- term DEBUNKING, there were discussions about using Walt Disney to
- produce cartoons that made fun of people who had seen flying
- saucers...they were going to bring Arthur Godfrey in as their
- spokesperson. Phil Klass as you mentioned, he's explained away
- UFO sightings seen by thousands of people as the constellation
- ORION, when you can only see ORION from the other side of the
- planet."
- CH: "Uh huh..."
- GK: "He uses things like Ball Lightning, plasma balls to
- explain the sightings where plasma balls only last for a few
- seconds and the examples that he is trying to explain occur in
- cloudless skies where there is no lightning around. You mention
- the Condon report, that's a perfect example of the kinds of
- things that the government has done in the past, they commission
- a study, it's supposed to be THE STUDY, but the guy they hire to
- run the thing, Edward Condon, had said before he even started,
- there was nothing to UFO's, the government should get out of it,
- and he also said at one point that the authors of UFO books
- should be HORSE-WHIPPED! One of the explanations that came from
- the Condon committee, (an event) witnessed by several people,
- they described it as, a natural phenomena so rare that it has
- never been seen before or since! I don't think this kind of
- thing is an accident!"
- CH: "OK, the Soviet Union and Tass gave their report (of a
- UFO) and from what I have heard there are different kinds of
- aliens, some have been coming here for years and years and it's
- nothing new..."
- GK: "Right..."
- (Note: At this point they engage in a discussion of the
- 'Billy Meier' case which took place in Switzerland. One of the
- craft described by Lazar was allegedly very similar to one of the
- craft described by Meier. Lazar said that all nine of the
- objects he had seen in the S-4, Groom Lake area were different,
- and he nicknamed the object that was similar to the one Meier
- photographed the 'sport model'. After this Chuck Harder tells
- George Knapp that there is a break coming up and that after the
- break would he please tell Mr. and Mrs. America what they should
- do to get the truth).
- CH: "I hope that Mr. and Mrs. America make note of the name
- George Knapp and Bob Lazar so that if anything ever happens to
- them, you know why."
- GK: "Someone should tell us what's going on...TV and movies
- have conditioned us...We won't panic...Jimmy Carter when he ran
- for President promised that if he was elected that he vowed to
- open all the UFO files and he didn't - we wrote him asking why
- and he didn't respond. We want the government to come clean..."
- (At this point the listeners were invited to contact George Knapp
- as KLAS-TV., P.O. Box 15047., Las Vegas, Nevada 89144)
-
- One group that is allegedly tied-in with the inner workings
- of the government-alien interaction and/or conflicts are known as
- the "Delta" Force. The Delta's, some allege, are a secret
- military group who have been recruited by the government in order
- to perform certain functions in relation to the so-called 'joint-
- interaction' projects involving deep-level government
- organizations and the 'aliens' (Greys).
- At the beginning of the 'interaction', the government was
- optimistic about their new-found alliance with an apparently
- benevolent race of non-human beings. When the government finally
- discovered the true nature of the 'aliens', also known as the
- 'greys', that 'they' were using the 'treaties' with the U.S.
- government merely as a means to further their infernal plans to
- bring the human race under their control, then according to
- various sources 'all hell broke loose!' The government-CIA in
- their zeal to establish contact with what they hoped were
- technological 'saviors' from the stars, had 'bargained away' much
- of what they had. When the 'Horrible Truth' was discovered it
- was too late, the aliens already had too much control and their
- physical and occult conquest was increasing every day. And the
- Delta's were caught right in the middle.
- The Delta Groups (or National Recon Group), wear the
- 'Trilateral' insignia, a black triangle on a red background.
- 'Delta' is also the fourth letter in the Greek alphabet, which
- has the form of a triangle. The symbol appears prominently in
- certain Masonic lodges, and is said to have had it's origin with
- the aliens (or serpent race).
- The Delta Forces were the major group which, according to
- some sources, were involved in the attempted operation which was
- implemented to rescue several scientists who were being held
- captive within the deepest levels of the 'Dulce' complex below
- northwestern New Mexico. These workers had stumbled across the
- 'Horrible Truth', and according to some sources over 66 persons,
- many of them Delta Forces, were slaughtered by the inhuman
- inhabitants and controllers of those lower levels. Some allege
- that Air Force Blue Berets were also involved in this conflict,
- which was later to become known as the 'Dulce Wars'. Exactly
- what part the Blue Berets played, however, is uncertain.
- With this in mind, the reader might better understand the
- following revelations which were released by former Naval Petty
- Officer and Intelligence worker, William Cooper. On January 10,
- 1989, Mr. Cooper sent the following statement to various
- different researchers:
-
- "The following information was extracted from a rather long
- treatise/transcript/conversation between an individual and
- another who was assigned to DELTA SECURITY:
- "01: Delta security has a lot to do with inter-service
- projects.
- "02: The Trilateral insignia (alien) is valid and has been
- used to mark equipment.
- "03: 'The whole thing is grim and won't get any better.'
- "04: The Trilateral insignia has been seen on a disk at
- Edwards AFB, CA and Area 51 in NV.
- "05: There is a hanger at Edwards referred to as the Delta
- Hanger.
- "06: The Delta Hanger is on the North Base at Edwards.
- "07: You need a special badge to get near it. It is a red
- badge with a black triangle on the face of it and personal
- information on the back.
- "08: Disk in hanger at Edwards described as having insignia
- on the underside and on the top. It was about 50' in diameter,
- appearing like tarnished silver, about 15 to 18 feet thick.
- There were what looked like windows around the raised portion
- that were mostly described as rectangular. There was a groove
- around the disk about 4 feet from the edge all the way around.
- There was an area on the bottom that looked like vents or
- louvers.
- "09: When people assigned to Delta would break down and cry
- for no apparent reason, you would never see them again.
- "10: Apparently, the NRO (National Recon Organization)
- recruits for DELTA out of Fort Carson, Colorado.
- "11: Just about everyone assigned to DELTA are orphans, have
- no relatives, etc.
- "12: There are 'bounty hunters' connected with Dreamland.
- "13: If you work at Dreamland and go on leave or are not
- back on time they send 'bounty hunters' after you. That's where
- the 'visitors' live...there is an underground facility...
- "14: Area 51 is at Groom Lake in Nevada. The disks are
- flown there.
- "15: One of the craft looked like an upside-down diamond.
- "16: There is a radiation hazard apparent when some of the
- craft fly.
- "17: No one stays at Dreamland for more than a few months.
- "18: 'Everything is way out of control...'"
- (no longer under 'human' control? - Branton)
-
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