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- From: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
- Newsgroups: uk.transport
- Subject: Re: City Traffic
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.171858.14579@maths.nott.ac.uk>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 17:18:58 GMT
- References: <935820125829@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> <1993Jan20.133858@cs.bham.ac.uk> <SM.93Jan22163103@suns2.cel.co.uk>
- Reply-To: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
- Organization: Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
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- In article <SM.93Jan22163103@suns2.cel.co.uk> sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta)
- writes:
- >If 50 people make journey A-B by bus they each pay UKLx. If they now repeat
- >that journey by private transport they also incur the cost (to all of us)
- >of the increased congestion (journey time) and pollution (journey quality).
-
- Yes, and they also save on the cost of road repairs [damage goes
- up as a high power of axle loading], the cost of employing a bus driver
- [and possibly also a conductor, and other personnel costs], and the cost
- of building bus shelters and other street furniture [itself a cause of
- congestion on the pavements and of accidents].
-
- Meanwhile, if buses were to be scrapped, traffic would not always
- be being held up by buses stopping to pick up and set down passengers,
- and bus lanes would become available to other traffic.
-
- Meanwhile, if 1 person makes journey A-B by bus, it is perfectly
- clear that it would benefit us all [except the redundant driver] if the
- journey were made by car instead.
-
- The balance simply isn't all that clear cut. Buses work well in
- situations where batching up lots of people makes sense, and not where
- it doesn't. In a free society, we should not be forcing people into
- batches when it isn't appropriate.
-
- One of my more interesting relevant experiences was working in
- Liverpool in 1968 [give or take a year] when there was a bus strike.
- People continued to queue at bus stops, and passing motorists gave them
- lifts. It worked extremely well -- the congestion was much reduced, and
- everyone got to work much faster. There were social benefits too; I
- got to know Liverpool rather well, and I met some interesting people.
- Pity this scheme couldn't be formalised!
-
- >Someone has to pay for these, it should be the motorist.
-
- It *is* the motorist! "Road Fund" licence, fuel tax, VAT, not
- to mention insurance, depreciation, etc. In addition, motorists, of
- their nature, pay hugely more on average in income tax and other general
- taxation than those who can't afford cars.
-
- --
- Andy Walker, Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
- anw@maths.nott.ac.uk
-