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- From: roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca (R Ross Holder Jr)
- Subject: Re: Vegitarianism
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:09:53 GMT
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- In <1993Jan26.165552.3350@cnsvax.uwec.edu> nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye) writes:
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- >>Ommm - why is it morally superior to kill a plant than to kill an
- >>animal?
- >
- >Because the animal is sentient
-
- Doesn't that depend on the animal? When we consider what is sentient and what
- isn't, some have suggested that the criteria for sentience are:
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- - intelligence
- - self-awareness
- - consciousness
-
- Does every animal posess these? If not, and if the pleasure/pain principle
- is our fundmantal moral principle, can animals experience pain as unhappiness?
- If not, and physical pain is all a given animal can experience (at that
- instinctively as we may be compelled to draw our hand away from a hot stove
- element), can it somehow be argued that killing these non-sentient entities
- is more wrong than chopping down a tree?
-
- Sentience, for me, is the determining factor in whether or not it is ethical
- to digest 'it' as sustenance. Vegetation isn't sentient, therefore it is
- ethical to eat salad. I don't perceive snails as sentient, therefore, it is
- is quite alright for me to ingest escargots. Cows may have been sentient
- once, but now been changed into cow-machines that barely posess sufficient
- intellect to distinguish day from night. Some dogs have demonstrated
- sentient qualities, but this isn't necessarily sentience. (However, enough
- doubt remains for me to feel eating dogmeat is unethical.) And 'higher'
- mammals such as dolphins, wales, a variety of apes have conclusively
- demonstratd stentience; therefore killing any member of these species I
- would equate with murder.
-
- Sentience is an order of degree it seems. That being the case, it follows
- that some animals may lack the development so as to make it no more wrong to
- eat them than a plant.
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