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- From: cash@convex.com (Peter Cash)
- Subject: Re: Abortion (was Vegetarianism)
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- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:29:34 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan22.023819.1@oread.cc.ukans.edu> hippee@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
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- One must remember something with regard to abortion, etc. The
- arguments that can be logically redered infavor of abortion, as i
- see it, are as follows:
-
- We don't understand what actually confers life (in the sense that
- you mean it). We do understand that some individuals possess a
- quality called life (i.e. those who are born). We are unsure if
- this quality is pre-labor.
-
- I don't have the foggiest notion what you're talking about. Of _course_ the
- normal fetus is alive. If it's dead, it ordinarily undergoes spontaneous
- abortion. These questions can be adequately answered by any course or
- textbook in elementary biology.
-
- Those recognized with the quality have
- certain claims within law (the proper study for such problems as
- abortion) to pursuit of happiness. The most expedient (and
- utilitarian) way to handle the situation is to allow those who's
- claim to the quality is undisputed to have sway in the argument.
-
- So you're saying that only people who can defend themselves (at least in a
- legal sense, by pressing their claim) have legal rights? That omits
- infants, of course--and toddlers up to about the age of two. Ditto for the
- comatose, and heavy sleepers.
-
- In my mind, the argument is not anything objective, it is,
- however, more expedient, an issue I have certain reservations
- about. The best one might hope for is for the issue to remain open
- (choice) until such time as a reasonably sure guess can be made
- concerning the amount of "life" that a fetus partakes of.
-
- You are saying that because you are in some way confused about the status
- of unborn children, everyone should make up their own minds about whether
- it's OK to kill them. That's a little disquieting--what if it turns out
- that it's really _not_ OK to kill the unborn? After all, you say that you
- don't know. Perhaps it would be better to err on the side of caution?
-
- Maybe it would help if you could be a little clearer in what way you
- think a fetus might be deficient? What do you mean when you talk about
- "life"? In what sense--other than a pathological one--might a fetus not be
- alive?
-
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