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- From: ECL4JN2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Jack B. Nimble)
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- Subject: Re: G&L MILITARY BAN: Call the White House NOW!
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 19:51:49 GMT
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- In article <C1GJF1.2wn@acsu.buffalo.edu>, on 26 Jan 93 10:51:00 GMT,
- viejones@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michael A. Jones) writes:
-
- >
- >In article <9648052325011993/A05354/POSSE/1171CDC11400*@mrgate.uwyo.edu>, LASAGA@corral.uwyo.edu (LASAGA) writes...
- >>
- >>In article <chavez.727989434@quorum.com>, chavez@quorum.com
- >>Would congressional legislation be able to override an executive
- >>order by Clinton? Or would an executive order by Clinton be able
- >>to override congressional legislation? Anybody know?
- >>
- >>-maria
- >
- >Congress prevails and could pass a law overriding an executive order
- >issued by Clinton.
- >
- True, but any such law could presumably be vetoed. Thus, as a practical
- matter, it would take a 2/3 vote in the House and in the Senate to
- override an executive order prohibiting exclusion and/or discrimination
- based solely on sexual orientation.
-
- >Furthermore, the military code contains
- >provisions outlawing homosexual behavior (sodomy, other stuff?) and can
- >only be amended by Congress.
- >
- This is true. In order to achieve equal treatment wrt sexual conduct, a
- majority of each of the houses would have to enact legislation revising
- the applicable sections of the military code.
-
- >A quote I saw from Senate Minority leader Dole indicates that he's confident
- >Clinton doesn't have enough support on the Hill.
- >
- The estimate that I heard is that only 30 out of the 100 senators
- supported a lifting of the ban. This does not necessarily mean that
- an executive order would be overturned in the Senate, because some of
- the 70 opposed might not vote to overturn a presidential veto on party
- loyalty grounds. At least this was what happened in the case of Bush
- having had almost all of his vetoes sustained.
-
- In any event, because of the large number of newly elected persons in
- the House, it is generally believed that more than 1/3 of the
- congresscritters support an executive order.
-
- =Jack=
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