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- From: tittle@alexandre-dumas.ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
- Subject: Re: Archetypical anti-anti-porn comment
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- Date: 25 Jan 93 23:03:41 GMT
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- In <robert.727750054@labyrinth> uunet!infmx!robert@ncar.ucar.EDU (Robert Coleman) writes:
-
- > May I suggest that pornography, being a symptom, is probably
- >not the problem?
-
- > |=> pornography
- > Repressive culture |
- > |=> targetting of women
-
- I've often thought that pornography is a symptom. I've called it a
- "mirror" -- one that shows us what is wrong with this culture. I
- don't like pornography one bit, but that's because when I look at it,
- I see a lot of stuff that shows me just how sick and twisted we can
- be. That doesn't mean I'm for censoring pornography (you know, it's
- tiresome to say that explicitly everytime when discussing this
- subject); it means that I think when we get rid of a lot of unhealthy
- attitudes we have about women, men, and sex in general, the
- pornography will change to reflect *that*. Breaking the mirror
- (outlawing the symptom) won't cause that change to happen, though.
- [I'm encouraged by the presence of porn like On Our Backs, Yellow
- Silk, and others, hopefully this is a sign of changes taking place on
- a deeper level than the more superficial legalistic level.]
-
- Which actually kind of leads to the thought that maybe the reason men
- *in general* like pornography is that they're much more comfortable
- with this culture [which at least celebrates their sexuality, however
- twisted it's become] than women *in general* [because their sexuality
- has been twisted in such a way that they're not even supposed to enjoy
- it] are and who *in general* do not enjoy pornography.
-
- Yes, you could argue that it's one of the sicknesses of this culture
- that women are not supposed to like sex and therefore condemn it. But
- is it because they've been raised to be prudish WRT sex or because
- they recognize, however unconsciously, that it puts a target on them,
- as Janis so cogently pointed out?
-
- --Cindy
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