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- From: tittle@alexandre-dumas.ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
- Subject: Re: Women's and men's safety
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- Date: 23 Jan 93 20:42:36 GMT
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- In <1job5o$15p@agate.berkeley.edu> uunet!infmx!hartman@ncar.UCAR.EDU (Robert Hartman) writes:
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- [discussing the difference between male/female safety at night]
-
- >For a man, the risk of going out at night appears to be more like a
- >personal train crash. --Messy and painful, but generally repairable.
- >But for a woman, going out alone at night might appear more like a
- >personal Chernobyl. --An utter disaster that cannot be undone.
-
- I'd like to take a closer look at this. To be fair, I'm going to look
- at both men and women that have been raped. And actually, the instances
- of men being raped are probably much higher than we think, for reasons
- I'll get into in a moment.
-
- I don't like the notion that for a woman to be raped, her world has
- ended. When a man is raped it is denied, and that's another problem.
- As I see it, both are symptomatic of the same basic idea: women are
- the sexual property of men. This translates into an indirect
- encouragement for rape in the first place: "overly sexed" men and the
- "stupid" women who got in their way. This also translates into the
- supreme importance placed on a woman's virginity, even to a
- pickiness/choosiness over having sex. Conversely for men, this
- translates into the expectation that they'll ALWAYS want sex, and
- they certainly don't wind up being someone else's sexual property.
-
- So the woman that has been raped finds social approval of her status
- has been stripped. Certainly, this is a "Chernobyl"-like effect, but
- is it intrinsic to being raped? I think not. Certainly rape is going
- to be more traumatic than being mugged since it's more personal, even
- though the risk of physical injury is probably about the same. But
- the additional truama of shame, rejection, and self-blaming is
- completely uneccessary and has contributed so much pain over the
- centuries.
-
- Conversely, the man who has been raped finds no acknowledgement of it
- -- this shows up in the quoted paragraph above where female rape was
- compared to male mugging instead [I know that there is the point of
- sheer numbers for comparison, that's not my point here]. People deny
- that it happened, or insinuate that he's not much of a man if it did.
- How many men pick up the phone and call the police to tell them he's
- just been gang-raped?
-
- Women also tend to be disbelieved, but the disbelief tends to center
- around whether or not it was really a rape or didn't she just "ask for
- it"? This is a bit different from the total denial that the man often
- experiences (I'm speaking as one who knows two different men who have
- told me of their experiences -- not much of a data point, but a lot
- more than people who know nothing of this).
-
- Anyway, I got into a bit of verbiage here, but the essential point I'm
- trying to make is that I don't like the "end of the world" view of the
- raped woman. Besides all of the above, I think it insults her
- personal strength for finding her way out of the trauma. Certainly
- she'll need help. She'll need to talk to people she trusts. But she
- can recover and barring stupid social conventions, she will.
-
- Some social conventions are useful. Others are stupid and sometimes
- even lethal...
-
- --Cindy
-
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