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- From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
- Subject: Re: <None> (reply to Britz)
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- Date: 25 Jan 93 18:31:43 GMT
- References: <1993Jan21.153047.359@physc1.byu.edu>
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- Reply-To: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
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- In article <1993Jan21.153047.359@physc1.byu.edu> jonesse@physc1.byu.edu writes:
- >
- >Dieter Britz and Jim Carr have recently asked for clarifications on my
- >comments regarding distinctions between "cold" and "hot" fusion (see
- >"Quick Replies" by me and "Re: Quick Replies" by Dieter and Jim).
-
- Thanks, Steve. It was always clear to me that there was nothing wrong
- in the way you approached the theory for cold fusion -- either with
- muons or under pressure, etc. There was an implication in your first
- post that the important thing was how frequently collisions occured
- with the barrier rather than the barrier and its penetrability. This
- has been cleared up by, for example, the following:
-
- >The principal idea behind the 1986 paper (replying to Dieter) was that for
- >fusion in bound electronic molecules, the fusion rate might be increased by
- >distortion of the molecular potential by subjecting the molecules to extreme
- >pressures. ...
-
- By the way, I really liked the quote you pulled from Tipler. No mention
- of barrier penetration as a function of E or anything. I wish stuff like
- that was either done right or not at all in introductory texts.
-
- > ... And
- >the distinction between muon- and electron- catalyzed fusion seems transparent.
- >No one sees enough neutrons OR helium OR gammas OR tritium (I could go on to
- >include any products of nuclear reactions) to justifiably associate claimed
- >xs heat with nuclear reactions. So why throw the BYU work in with P/F claims?
- > PLEASE HELP STOP THIS NONSENSE.
- >The distinction is clear in Huizenga's book and Frank Close's, but uncritically
- >muddled in Mallove's (which I profoundly resent). It seems that believers in
- >the unfounded notion that xs heat as claimed by P/F is nuclear USE the
- >low-level nuclear findings of the BYU group and others to support their claims.
- >To me, this is grossly unfair and fallacious. I will continue to fight such
- >nonsense.
-
- As will I. Actually, as someone who does coincidence experiments you should
- realize that it was the time relationship between the two events -- with your
- announcement after P&F -- that led to the view (among those who cannot do
- arithmetic) that this was confirmation of the nuclear part of the P&F(&H)
- work. For some time this historical accident (if it was an accident,
- since F&F knew when Jones was to submit his article) kept the two intertwined
- while we tried to sort out what was going on. Since things got sorted out,
- the two different sets of results are only mixed up by those trying to give
- more credence to the claims of heat.
-
- Personally, I would prefer to call your work "cold fusion" and the other
- stuff "mysterious electrolytic heat" until proven otherwise, but we are
- stuck with the nomenclature.
-
- --
- J. A. Carr | "The New Frontier of which I
- jac@gw.scri.fsu.edu | speak is not a set of promises
- Florida State University B-186 | -- it is a set of challenges."
- Supercomputer Computations Research Institute | John F. Kennedy (15 July 60)
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