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- From: sschaff@roc.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Stephen F. Schaffner)
- Subject: Re: Implications of hypothesis of subground states
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:15:59 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.044246.16642@zip.eecs.umich.edu>,
- monkey@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Monkey King) writes:
-
- |> Here is a physics question: when an electron in a atom radiates, which
- |> particle loses mass -- the electron or the nucleus or both? For example,
- |> suppose a proton and an electron at rest, initially unbound, the total mass
- |> is M = Mp + Me, where Mp and Me are rest mass of the particles, respectively.
- |> The electron then combines with the proton to form a hydrogen atom in the
- |> ground state, losing 13.6 eV in the form of radiation. The total mass of the
- |> two particles is now M - 13.6 eV. Now the question is which particle is
- |> lighter than before? And why? Can you say here that you can't ask such a
- |> question because you have to treat the atom as a single entity? This
- |> quesiton is relevant to Bollinger's argument about the electron becoming
- |> lighter and lighter when it falls thru the basement to become a hydrino. I
- |> hope experts in this group can give a serious answer to my question (Blue,
- |> Carr, Jones, are you listening?).
-
- Even though I am not one of the above mentioned . . . the correct
- answer is that neither loses mass. The rest mass of the system in its initial
- state is M. The rest mass of the final state (hydrogen + photon(s)) is
- also M (conservation of rest mass is guarenteed by the seperate conservation
- of momentum and energy); the rest mass of the hydrogen atom is smaller than
- that of the system as a whole. The masses of the electron and proton do
- not change (unless of course they decay, which would be novel).
-
- --
- Steve Schaffner sschaff@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu
- The opinions expressed may be mine, and may not be those of SLAC,
- Stanford University, or the DOE.
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