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- From: schneid@sp94.csrd.uiuc.edu (David John Schneider)
- Subject: Re: Exploiting Structure of Hamiltonian Matrices
- In-Reply-To: smith@minerva.harvard.edu's message of 22 Jan 93 13:44:22 GMT
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- Date: 22 Jan 93 14:28:01
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- smith@minerva.harvard.edu (Steven Smith) writes:
-
- >
- > By the way, these papers define the symplectic group to be the group
- > of transformations leaving invariant the form
- > _ _ _
- > x y + x y + . . . + x y
- > 1 1 2 2 n n
- > _ *
- > (y denotes the complex conjugate of y). This is really the group SO(n);
- > the symplectic group leaves invariant the form
- >
- > x y + x y + . . . + x y .
- > 1 1 2 2 n n
- >
- > I don't know if this matters to you; they do this because the
- > Hermitian pops up in the (complex) Riccati equation.
- >
- Neither of these definitions correspond to the usual definition
- of the invariant form for symplectic groups. For example,
- Gilmore ("Lie Groups, Lie Algebras, and Some of Their Applications",
- J. Wiley, 1974, chapter 2) defines symplectic groups as those
- which preserve a bilinear antisymmetric form such as:
-
- x y - x y + x y - x y + ...
- 1 n n 1 2 n-1 n-1 2
-
- The forms mentioned above by Steve Smith are sesquilinear and
- bilinear, respectively, and both are symmetric.
-
- As mentioned by Steve Smith it may be that the authors are really
- interested in the one of the non-compact groups SO^*(2N) or SU^*(2N),
- the so-called "embedding groups". The appearance of these groups
- is reasonable given the close connection between Hamiltonian dynamics
- and quaternions.
-
- Another possibility is that the authors are interested in the
- intersection of the symplectic group with the unitary or orthogonal
- group. In this case both symmetric and antisymmetric forms appear.
- In fact, these two possibilities are related since maximal
- compact subgroup of SU^*(2N) is the unitary-symplectic group
- USp(2n), and similar relationship holds between SO^*(2N) and U(N).
- For more details, see chapter 6 in the book by Gilmore mentioned
- previously.
-
- In any event, one should realize that it is the invariance of a
- given bilinear antisymmetric form which crucial to the definition
- of a symplectic group.
-
-
- --
-
- Dave Schneider
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