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- From: howp@sask.usask.ca
- Subject: Re: Terror at 41,000'
- X-Submission-Date: 25 JAN 93 23:18:19 GMT
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- Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 23:47:05 PST
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- ak336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Dill) writes:
-
- >I'm new to this forum, so I'll introduce myself first before I relate
- >this story. I'm an air traffic controller at the Cleveland ARTCC in
- >Oberlin, Ohio. I've been a controller for 22 years and have quite a few
- >avaition related stories I can tell. I'm also a commercial pilot, though
- >have not been very active the last few years.
- > My memory is a bit fuzzy with the dates and names (names will be changed
- >anyway to protect the guilty) but I think most of what I'm abou to tell
- >is the truth.
- > A Boeing 727 was enroute to JFK at an altitude of 41,000' on this day
- >about 1976. The pilot (we'll call him "Slim") and the co-pilot were
- >discussing the latest rumor about the so called "step", as in boating,
- >but relating to the increase in speed and reduction in fuel consumption
- >possible at high mach numbers and altitutes possible with the 727.
-
- [...the stuff about a 727 falling out of the air and landing
- successfully has been deleted...]
-
- > A long legal battle took place between ALPA and the airline (Global Air?)
- >and the F.A.A. In the end, I think the pilots were exonerated..and if you
- >ask me....they saved the day!
- >John
-
-
- I think that this is the famous case with Captain 'Hoot' Gibson. 60
- Minutes on CBS had a recent epsiode (in the 1990's) about this incident. From
- what I remember about the show, the impression I was given was that none of
- this incident was Gibson's fault and that the whole circuit breaker story was a
- fabrication of both the FAA and Boeing (at least, that's what was implied). The
- ostensible reason for such conspiracy was sited as being due to the importance
- of the 727 (and Boeing) exports. If there was something wrong with the 727
- that Capt. Gibson flew, imagine the cost with having to ground all of the 727s
- in the world!
-
- The landing was made at a very high speed (it was quoted in knots, and
- I've forgotten the numbers, but I think I remember calculating it to be about
- 450 mph...!). The brakes in the landing gear were so shredded that the metal
- was spun into something akin to candy floss or steel wool.
-
- I also remember them showing a list of other 727 flights that had the same
- loss of control problem. I think 'Hoot' is now flying a twin-prop seaplane
- (a Grumman, it's a famous one, I can't remember the name...) and is
- fed up with the civil airline industry.
-
- Also, I'm not a regular reader of this newsgroup, but I think that this
- story has been dealt with here before several times over. Nevertheless, I
- find it an interesting story.
-
- > Don't blame me.....I voted for Bush!
-
- Gosh, I didn't even vote! :)
-
- Peter How, Grad Stud
- ISAS
- University of Saskatchewan,
- Saskatoon, SK
- CANADA
-
-