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- From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
- Subject: Re: Yamaha E1000 vs Sony TA-E2000ESD
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.045508.17234@nwnexus.WA.COM>
- Keywords: Dolby prologic
- Sender: sso@nwnexus.WA.COM (System Security Officer)
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- References: <1993Jan21.181248@lamisun6.epfl.ch> <C188zI.CJ9@ampex.com> <8420@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:55:08 GMT
- Lines: 48
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- In article <8420@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> gregr@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Gregory S Rogers) writes:
- >
- > >All DSP settings (Pro-Logic, ambience, equalization, compression/
- > >expansion) are by-passed in the "Source Direct" mode. As you state,
- > >analog signals still go through A/D->D/A, however. (Don't ask me
- > >why Sony does it that way, though.)
- >
- >I believe that you are both incorrect. In the bypass mode the analog signals
- >go through the input level control then directly to the master volume control.
- >They do NOT get converted through the A/D->D/A in this path as you suggest.
- >This can be seen in the Sony block diagram on page 52 of the manual. Its the
- >line from the center tap of the input level control to the switch connected
- >to the top of the motorized ganged master volume control.
- >
- >This topology can be simply demonstrated. Play a CD, using the ANALOG output
- >of the CD player into the (obviously) ANALOG input of the TA2000. Now turn the
- >volume control down to a fairly low level. (I don't want to hurt your
- >speakers.) Now WITHOUT the bypass switch on, turn the input level control, NOT
- >the VOLUME control, all the way to max. During louder portions of the CD the
- >OVERload indicator on the TA2000 will light up and the sound will be awful.
- >Clicks, pops, distortion etc as the A/D convertor is overloaded. Now press
- >the bypass switch and notice the sound is now fine. The OVERload indicator
- >will still light because the signal still goes to the A/D but since the
- >signal from the TA2000 bypasses the A/D it sounds fine. The A/D and obviously
- >D/A are bypassed by the switch. This is the desired design topology. (When
- >using digital input signals the signals are routed through the D/A in the
- >bypass mode, which of course they must to get an analog output.)
-
-
- I suggested this exact test several days ago, but I wasn't in a position
- at the time to do the test myself. Someone else did it and claimed to
- hear obvious digital clipping from the A/D converter in source-direct
- mode, so I assumed that proved that everything went through A/D and D/A
-
- Today, I finaly got a chance to do it and I have to agree with your
- assessment. There was clear digital clipping with source-direct off when
- the input level was at maximum, but no digital clipping when source-direct
- was turned on -- which proves almost conclusively that analog sources do
- *not* go through A/D and D/A conversion with source-direct on.
-
- I had looked at the block diagram previously, but I never was very good
- at reading such things (I'm left-brained :-) ) and I couldn't tell
- whether source-direct bypassed the A/D and D/A conversion steps just
- from the diagram.
-
- --
- Steve Kanefsky
-
-