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From: [e-mail] (Will Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.women,soc.men
Subject: Re: Women Sports Reporters
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Date: 21 Jan 93 03:56:00 GMT
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[e-mail] (Sherri Nichols) writes...
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
>(aaron.l.hoffmeyer) writes:

>>I assume that men reporters are also entitled to interview women
>>athletes while they are bathing, although I've never heard of one man
>>even attempting to do so.

>In every sport where women participate, men and women reporters have equal
>access to the players.

And I repeat his question... (unless he has already done so)  Do you
know of an actual case where a male reporter even attempting to
interview women athletes while they were bathing?  If so, what was
the outcome?


>>Wyche's primary motivation was to insure that his players were not open
>>to charges of sexual harassment for behaving inappropriately while not
>>fully clothed in front of women reporters.  He understood that the
>>incident with the New England Patriots football players and a woman
>>reporter came about because these Partriot football players were very
>>resentful of a woman reporter insisting on interviewing players in the
>>locker room immediately after practice while they were bathing.  He was
>>trying to avoid this problem.
>>
>>A group of his players later had group sex with a woman in Seattle, WA,
>>and then, when the women pursued them with threats of accusing them of
>>rape, paid her a lump sum of something like $30,000 to NOT go forward
>>with the allegations.  Then, the woman demanded more money.  The
>>players refused to give her more money.  So, she went forwarded with
>>the rape allegations.  I don't know the outcome of the trial, though.
>>Despite Wyche's "fathering," this group of "his" players were stupid
>>enough to open themselves up to such allegations.

>Perhaps if Wyche had dealt with the real problem of the players and their
>attitudes toward women, instead of tacitly supporting those attitudes, his
>"fathering" would have been more effective.

Methinks that your bias is screaming off the page.  You seem to imply that
these men are already guilty.  Indeed, if the woman *had* actually
consented to sex, then this *hardly* condemns the players' "attitudes
about women".  Granted, if the sex was not consensual, as she implied,
then I agree that you would have a point.  As it is, the facts of the
case have not yet come out (as far as I have heard), so you do the accused
a great disservice by summarily convicting them.

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