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- Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
- Date: Wednesday, 27 Jan 1993 16:14:55 EST
- From: Aron Eisenpress <AFECU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
- Message-ID: <93027.161455AFECU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
- Newsgroups: rec.railroad
- Subject: Re: NEC
- References: <1jjf1oINN8vf@iraul1.ira.uka.de> <16B5CF000.M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org>
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- A few comments on things other folks haven't (yet) said:
-
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- In article <16B5CF000.M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org>, M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org says:
- >
- >
- >150 mph. Back in the 1960s, the Pennsylvania Railroad's Metroliner electric
- >multiple unit trains were allowed at least 120 mph.
-
- I remember watching out the front and seeing the speedometer up around 124
- on those, when they were first in service.
-
-
- > 5.) Trenton - Philadelphia. Operated by Southeastern Pennsylvania
- > Transportation Authority (SEPTA). Electric multiple-unit trains.
- > Service operates seven days a week, all day and evening. Last time I
- > remember looking at a schedule, base service was hourly with more
- > trains in the rush hours, but SEPTA has been cutting back recently.
- > Through tickets sold New York <-> Philadelphia by NJT/SEPTA at a
- > considerably cheaper price than Amtrak charges. SEPTA trains run on
- > the Corridor (and on other lines as well) to 30th Street Station, then
- > follow a short branch into Penn Center and Market East Stations in
- > downtown ("Center City") Philadelphia. Most then continue on to one
- > of several destinations on the former Reading Railroad lines. This
- > line is relatively lightly used even for SEPTA, which is arguably the
- worst commuter rail system operator in the U.S.
-
- SEPTA also runs one or two AEM-7 (or similar) locomotive-hauled trains here.
- I see them at Trenton on the weekend.
-
- I happen to have a 1980 schedule for this line, and the comparison is
- interesting:
-
- Trains weekdays (each direction) Saturdays Sundays
-
- 1980 21 11 6
-
- Today 25 18 18
-
- On the other hand, I think Amtrak was much cheaper then than now, so there was
- less incentive to use the local for NYC-Philadelphia (or Trenton-Philadelphia)
- travel. (The cheapest fares now for New York/Philadelphia are, on Amtrak,
- $47.00 for a round-trip excursion, and on NJTransit+SEPTA, $21.00 for an off-
- peak round-trip. One-way NYC-PHL is $30.00 on Amtrak, $12.95 on NJT/SEPTA
- off-peak, $14.20 peak. NJT sells SEPTA tickets, but not vice-versa, and if
- you're traveling through Center City to another SEPTA line you can't buy the
- SEPTA through ticket from NJT.)
-
- (SEPTA fares, by the way, have gone up from $3.25 to $3.50 off-peak and from
- $4.35 to $4.75 peak, since 1980, for Trenton/Philadelphia. Monthly passes went
- *down*, from $145 to $132.) Also, base service is still hourly; I don't think
- this service was cut at all recently, other than to eliminate the former flag
- stops at Frankford Junction and Andalusia.
-
- > 6.) Philadelphia - Wilmington - Newark (DE). Electric multiple-unit
- > trains operated by SEPTA. Most service runs between Philadelphia and
- > Wilmington (see comment above regarding "Center City"). I believe
- > that a few rush hour trains are extended to Newark but this may not
- > yet have begun. There used to be additional service between Chester
- > and Philadelphia, and I think there still is.
-
- The additional service goes to Marcus Hook, 3 stops beyond Chester and 2 stops
- before Wilmington. There's no service to Newark on the timetable, and on
- Sundays there's no service past Marcus Hook.
-
-
- Interestingly, I recently had to pay a cash fare on Amtrak (to upgrade an
- excursion ticket) and the receipt has punchboxes for a few stations between
- Philadelphia (PHL) and Baltimore (BAL) that I didn't think Amtrak had anything
- to do with: CHT (Chester), NRK (Newark), ETN (????), and ABE (Aberdeen).
-
-
- And in response to another thread, the Poughkeepsie bridge is just north of
- the Poughkeepsie Metro-North/Amtrak station.
-
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