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- From: sfsmith@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Sandy F. Smith, Jr.)
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- Subject: Re: Why is SEPTA so horrible?
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 21:43:53 GMT
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- In article <16B637D50.M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org>, M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org writes:
- >
- > In article <1993Jan27.015532.17615@s1.gov>
- > lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
-
- > >
- > > I've seen some comments about how the Southeastern
- > >Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA: the Philadelphia area)
- > >is supposedly one of the worst managed systems around. How is that???
- > >--
- > Well, I'm not sure I'd lay the blame entirely on the management. SEPTA's
- > basic problem has been that it has no reliable long term source of funds.
- > It is controlled by a Board which is dominated by the City of Philadelphia,
- > which in the style of the little boy who owns the only bat, continually
- > threatens to take its money and go home if the game isn't played by its rules.
-
- Actually, it's not that simple at all. Far from being "dominated" by the City
- of Philadelphia, the SEPTA Board is an exquisite attempt to mollify numerous
- historically hostile factions. Each of the five counties that make up the
- Pennsylvania part of Greater Philadelphia (Philadelphia City and County are
- coterminous) gets two seats on the board, and two more board members are
- appointed by the Governor for a total of twelve seats. If the members from
- the four suburban counties decide to vote as a bloc, the City of Philadelphia
- could be consistently outvoted on all matters. Given the historic distrust
- that exists between Philadelphia and its suburbs, the surprise is that this
- hasn't happened more.
-
- One reason may be that during the Gunn years, everybody had a vested interest
- in bringing their portion of the system (Red Arrow, City Transit, Regional
- Rail, what-have-you) back from the dead, so board members could trade support
- for each other's desired equipment. But such cooperation is nonetheless rare;
- it was not too long ago that the SEPTA board was in the hip pocket of the
- powerful Montgomery County Republican machine. It took the Governor himself
- to loosen its grip (one of the few good things Casey's done for SEPTA without
- having to be bludgeoned into acting).
-
- > David Gunn has been a controversial factor in several cities, but IMHO he is
- > a competent no-nonsense manager. You may not agree with everything he does
- > but you have to respect his forthrightness and desire to make things work.
- > Unfortunately, the cards tend to be stacked against good management.
- > Mostly because of the lack of independent funding that can't be pulled out by
- > somebody who is unhappy with management's policies. To run SEPTA you have to
- > play politics, which doesn't make for good railroading.
-
- Amen! And that applies to more than just railroading. Surface transit
- operations are also thus held hostage, and some impediments to (IMO) better
- metropolitan transit (such as the operational split at the city line) can
- also be traced to the same source. Nonetheless, the best testament to
- David Gunn's brilliance as a transit manager is that SEPTA's rapid-transit
- network today still runs, and is in fairly good repair. The regional rail
- network, sad to say, is another story -- it's still on life support.
-
- > The lack of solid funding has led to actual or threatened service cuts, fare
- > increases, deferred maintenance, etc., all of which make management look bad
- > when it's not entirely under their control. I don't know the full story
- > behind abandonment of the PCC routes, but I would guess that the major factors
- > prompting this decision were the age of the equipment coupled with the problems
- > inherent in operating streetcars along narrow streets like the 23 route uses to
- > get through Center City. Personally I was surprised to see that the 15 line
- > was shut down. As I recall, Girard Avenue is plenty wide enough to handle
- > streetcars, and the line was heavily used. But then, I'm 300 or so miles
- > away, so I probably don't know all the details.
-
- I have heard through the grapevine that depreciation had something to do with
- the decision to eliminate all PCC services, i.e., SEPTA could no longer take
- depreciation on its PCC fleet, and thus opted for buses to make its bottom
- line look better. Sounds specious to me, but then I'm no economist.
-
- >
- > In summary, SEPTA probably has had some management problems, but my personal
- > guess is that those pale into insignificance in contrast to the problems
- > created by the political forces with which it has to deal and the lack of
- > secure independent funding.
-
- SEPTA pulled out all the stops a couple of years ago to get the Pennsylvania
- legislature to pass a tax package that included dedicated taxes for mass
- transit. All 37 of Pennsylvania's public transit agencies face two major
- hurdles in obtaining a sufficient source of state funds: the state constitu-
- tion prohibits use of the state gasoline tax on anything but roads, and the
- rural interests wield sufficient power in the legislature that any move to
- amend this provision would surely be shot down. As it was, the farmboys
- had to be convinced that stable funding for mass transit of any kind was in
- their interest as well. Add the animosity that many Pennsylvanians feel for
- anything advanced by/on behalf of Philadelphia, and SEPTA's obtaining secure
- state funding becomes little short of a miracle.
-
- > The net result of all of these has been a system
- > that from the point of view of the rider is unreliable, unpredictable (in the
- > long term) and unattractive. It's really a shame because the basic infra-
- > structure that SEPTA inherited from its predecessors was arguably the best
- > transit network in the U.S.
- >
-
- We in Philadelphia are fortunate indeed that our rail transit facilities
- (Market Street Subway/Market Street Elevated aside) were built to such high
- standards to begin with, or else they'd have been long since shut down. But
- getting less than we deserve is the norm around here: the system we have
- is only a shadow of the system a city agency suggested we should have *in
- 1913*. But that is a subject for another post.
-
- _________________________________________________________________________
- Sandy F. Smith Jr._______sfsmith@mail.sas.upenn.edu________(215) 898-4940
- Administrative Assistant, Graduate Division, School of Arts and Sciences,
- University of Pennsylvania, 16 College Hall, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6378
- (Opinions mine, not Penn's. If they want 'em, they gotta pay for 'em.)
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