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- References: <1jjf1oINN8vf@iraul1.ira.uka.de> <16B5CF000.M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org> <1993Jan21.223109.5326@ryn.mro4.dec.com> <3212@tymix.Tymnet.COM> <C1A9rx.Hww@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1993Jan24.170425.10648@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:44:38 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan24.170425.10648@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
- pierson@empror.enet.dec.com (dave pierson) writes:
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- > hmmmm. This is not real well documented, and may have changed from
- > generation to generation of the NH Electrics. I believe that any
- > purchased after the NY Connecting (the line from New Rochelle to
- > Harold) had three way shoes: all the way up, overrunning, underrruning.
- >
- > The NH Employee TT certainly refers to NH locos equipped to run into
- > Penn Station: They needed ATS to meet PRR requirements for tunnel ops.
- > A change of power in Penn Station would save a stop at Harold. Harold
- > also seems to be referenced in the NH Employee TT as the dividing line:
- > specific reference is made to rake off blocks at Harold. (these would
- > knock off 3rd rail shoes, in case they hadn't raised, to prevent the
- > shoes fouling something further along.)
- >
- Dave, check my previous posting re: operation into Penn Station.
- Trackage west of Harold was owned by some combination of the PRR and LIRR
- and was not NH or New York Connecting property. New Haven electric
- locomotives might well have been equipped for running on the PRR/LIRR
- third rail, but I can't imagine why they would have needed to have been
- unless it was just in case they had to use track that didn't have
- overhead wire in case of some emergency. I wouldn't think MU cars or freight
- locomotives would have needed it as neither would run into Penn Station
- though again it probably wouldn't cost a great deal to add the dual shoes and
- would allow use on PRR/LIRR tracks in case of the very unusual emergency.
- As far as a "stop at Harold" is concerned, if they ever changed engines
- at Harold regularly (which I doubt) it was before my day, and even if
- they changed from third rail to overhead there (or the reverse) why would
- they have to stop? They didn't/don't stop at Woodlawn!
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