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- From: M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org
- Subject: Re: NEC
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- References: <1jjf1oINN8vf@iraul1.ira.uka.de> <16B5CF000.M00209@MBVM.Mitre.Org> <1993Jan21.223109.5326@ryn.mro4.dec.com> <3212@tymix.Tymnet.COM> <C1A9rx.Hww@acsu.buffalo.edu>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:02:24 GMT
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- In article <C1A9rx.Hww@acsu.buffalo.edu>
- yhshowie@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Howard Wharton) writes:
-
- >
- >In article <3212@tymix.Tymnet.COM>, romeo@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Michael Stimac) writes...
- > Power (motors) were changed at Sunnyside...New Haven's motors that ran
- >into GCT were designed to run on NYCs underrunning 3rd rail not on
- >PRR/LIRR overrunning third rail. I belive that the FL-9s shoes could be
- >changed to over or underrunning.
-
- Sorry, I can't let this one go by without comment.
-
- I have ridden the trains between Boston, New York and Washington hundreds of
- times since about 1953, and I can state unequivocally that I have NEVER been on
- a train that changed power at Sunnyside! In pre-Penn Central days, the PRR
- GG1s were swapped for New Haven EP5s (or earlier power) at the station stop in
- Penn Station. Invariably so, as far as I know. PRR's GG1s were, of course,
- serviced at Sunnyside. New Haven engines, I believe, were serviced only at
- New Haven, though I suppose minor repairs could be performed at Oak Point
- if they had to.
-
- As for the PC era, that was when they started running the GG1s through to
- New Haven. I believe that some (minor) modifications to the overhead were
- required. I seem to remember some early problems with the GG1s pantographs
- snagging the wire at "dead spots" and phase breaks (e. g., Cos Cob Bridge).
-
- I don't believe that FL9s ever ran into Penn Station until well into the
- Amtrak generation, and I don't think Amtrak ever used them routinely there
- until the opening of the West Side Connection. There is a fairly well known
- story that has come to be part of "urban legend", and may well be apochryphal,
- concerning this. It is said that sometime after the New Haven had been running
- FL9s into GCT for some time, the President of the Pennsy (perhaps Saunders)
- was asked what about running them into Penn Station too and saving the
- engine change at New Haven for their trains as well. His comment supposedly
- was something like "Not on your life! If Mr. Perlman wants to blow his
- station to Hell, that's his business, but there won't be any engines with
- fuel tanks running into my Station!"
-
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