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- From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
- Subject: EF 75-300 (was Re: Elan Telephoto Zoom Lenses)
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:09:20 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.180920.29010@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>
- References: <1993Jan19.171541.24635@watson.ibm.com> <1993Jan20.173344.7992@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>
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- In article <1993Jan20.173344.7992@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins) writes:
- > In article <TJWU.93Jan19224507@w20-575-76.mit.edu>, tjwu@athena.mit.edu (Thomas J Wu) writes:
- > > In article <1993Jan19.232316.3762@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins) writes:
- > > >
- > > > Where does the (often quoted) opinion that the 75-300 has poor optics come
- > > > from? Is it just because it is cheap, or is there hard data to back up the
- > >
- > > Popular Photography, April '92.
- > >
- >
- > Look at the hard data in that report, and compare it with hard data on
- > similar lenses (such as the Minolta 100-300 zoom in the same issue). Then
- > tell me if the 75-300 has poor optics. By "hard data" I mean the charts
- > and tables rather than the "opinions of the experts", which often seem
- > to contradict (or at least conflict with) the numerical data. I'm not
- > saying the 75-300 is the worlds best lens, just that it is not to be
- > dismissed on the basis of poor optics. It isn't a fast focusser and it
- > feels quite "plastic", but it has a 4:1 zoom range and it is inexpensive.
- >
-
- Let me add some numbers. Comparing here the Canon EF75-300, The Sigma 75-300,
- the Sigma 75-300 APO and the Tamron 90-300 (all from Pop Photog tests).
-
- First SQFs at 8x enlargement (8x10)
-
- Canon Sigma Sigma APO Tamron
- 300mm
- f5.6 94.4 94.2 93.9 90.7
- f8 95.0 94.2 94.7 92.3
- f11 94.7 95.6 96.5 94.4
- f16 93.6 95.4 96.0 95.0
-
- Wide open the EF75-300 is the BEST of the bunch, better than the Sigam APO
- lens. It still wins stopped down to f8! 300mm lenses are almost always used
- wide open to get a fast shutter speed, so wide open sharpness is where things
- count. It does start to lose out when stopped down to f11 or slower, but not
- by enough to matter very much.
-
- 200mm
- f5 95.6 96.8 97.2 94.8
- f5.6 96.4 96.6 97.1 95.5
- f8 97.4 97.4 98.2 95.9
- f11 97.3 97.3 98.0 96.9
-
- 75mm (90 for Tamron)
- f4 95.4 98.0 98.4 94.3
- f5.6 98.1 98.0 98.6 95.6
- f8 98.7 98.4 99.0 97.7
- f11 98.6 98.6 98.6 98.2
-
- Wide open the Canon is very slightly softer than the Sigmas (remember, SQFs
- above 95 are A+, i.e. excellent). By 5.6 at 75mm the Canon is better than
- the non APO sigma and real close to the APO.
-
- Now lets look at aperture accuracy:
- Canon EF75-300 "Extremely accurate" within +/- 0.1 stops everywhere.
- Sigma 75-300 "Generally accurate" but only to +/- 0.5 stops
- Sigma 75-300 APO "Acceptable" +/- 1/2 stop at 300mm
-
- +/- 0.5 stops is what I usually bracket at with slide film! It is not
- "acceptable" to me....
-
- How about field curvature and astigmatism:
- Canon EF 75-300. OK at 75mm, good at 200 and 300mm
- Sigma 75-300. OK at 75 and 300mm, good at 200mm
- Sigma 75-300 APO Very good at 75 and 300mm, good at 200mm
-
- No problems with the Canon lens there
-
- How about Macro performance:
- Canon EF75-300. Average performance with little distortion
- Sigma 75-300. Average performance with very noticable distortion
- Sigma 75-300 APO. Average performance with slight distortion.
-
- Still no problems with the Canon lens as far as I can see.
-
- How about flare then?
- Canon 75-300. 300mm "eliminated by f11"
- Sigma 75-300. 300mm "noticable even at f32"
- Sigma 75-300 APO. 300mm "evident above f22"
-
- Looks like the Canon is the best here.
-
- I could go on, but I think the point should have been made by now. The next
- time someone dismisses the Canon EF75-300 zoom as a poor performer ask them
- what the basis is for their comments. In many ways it outperforms the
- Sigma 75-300 (which is regarded as an OK lens), the Sigma 75-300 APO (which
- is regarded as a good lens) and the Tamron 90-300 (which I have heard no
- critical comments about). I did not include the Minolta 100-300(i?) zoom
- which was tested in the same Pop Photog issue as the Canon lens because
- it did so poorly, especially at 300mm.
-
- So all you guys who knocked the 75-300 Canon, what do you have to say now?
- It may not be the world's best lens, it may be made of plastic, it may
- not have distance markings or IR marks, it may not have internal focussing
- and the front element might rotate, but don't forget it is inexpensive and
- you can draw your own conclusions about it's optics from the Pop Photog
- data. I have used this lens myself and I can believe the Pop Photog
- numbers.
-
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