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- From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
- Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
- Subject: Re: Re; Nat'l Health Plan (Was: Re: Lance
- Message-ID: <carlp.728166343@frigg>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 20:25:43 GMT
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- mayer@sono.uucp (Ron Mayer) writes:
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- >In article <1k3jipINN1n6@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
-
- >>The problem is that today, free market forces do NOT dictate those
- >>salaries. Health care consumers do not directly pay for the
-
- >economics, but intuitively it would seem that in a free market,
- >consumers would pay whatever they thought their insurance was worth;
- >and insurance companies would pay doctor's salaries according to what
- >their clients were willing to pay.
-
- Wouldn't THAT be nice - unfortunately, that ain't the way things are.
-
- > Similarly, if my
- >insurance company pays for heart-lung-transplants for 90 year old 3
- >pack a day smokers; and I think they are charging me too much because
- >of it; I'll change insurance companies.
- >paying for the motorcycle parts and lung transplant; I still excercize
- >free market power by choosing to pay the motorcycle dealer or
- >insurance company.
-
- Oh? Tell your employer that it must change carriers? Good luck. If
- you pay for your own insurance, you're in the tiny minority in today's
- USA - mostly it's employer-provided (perhaps with some fee-sharing).
-
- >due to a monopoly of either doctors or insurance companies (or
- >something preventing informed choices selecting either). There seem
-
- BINGO! Monopolies of both doctors and insurance companies, not to
- mention extensive suppression of information necessary for informed
- choice. E.g. 1: all sorts of "alternative" medicines are not allowed
- to be advertised as having health benefits, nor even have possible
- benefits mentioned in the labeling. E.g.2: Doctors are not generally
- allowed to advertise by their union (AMA). E.g.3: AMA conspires with
- state governments to limit the numbers and specialties of doctors in
- certain areas, via licensing exams and practice-practice (residency,
- internship) programs which bear little relationship to training and
- more to tests of endurance and determination. E.g.4: Your own
- example: you don't need somebody with an MD to check your eyesight,
- but they're REQUIRED BY LAW in most places to be "supervised" by a
- "licensed" MD. This is unconscionable restraint of trade, but that's
- OK because it's done by the government.
-
- And let's not even mention "state insurance commissions".
-
- --
- Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG S.I. 2.27 | "If we were directed from Washington
- Olivetti North America / Spokane, WA | when to sow and when to reap, we would
- Mail: carlp@mail.spk.olivetti.com | soon want for bread."
- or: ...uunet!oliveb!isc-br!carlp | - Thomas Jefferson
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