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- From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
- Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
- Subject: Re: Re; Nat'l Health Plan (Was: Re: Lance Hols
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:40:03 GMT
- Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
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- In article 442211383@kennel.fidonet.org, John.Hamilton@kennel.fidonet.org () writes:
- >Thursday January 21 1993 16:38, Ron Mayer wrote to All:
- >
- > RM> IMHO the solution is that the insurance shouldn't pay for whatever one
- > RM> doctor/patient combination they choose. Instead, they should consider
- > RM> the patient's condition, and if they don't like the doctor's
- > RM> "estimate", they'd send out some their own insurance-adjustor doctor
- > RM> to make his own estimate.
-
- There was an article in this Sunday's local paper on just this problem
- (NOT solution!). One surgeon had to hire a full time office manager
- just to deal with insurance adjustors, who called daily wanting to know
- how much urine a patient had passed, what his temperature was every
- hour, etc., etc.
-
- Micromanagement doesn't work for Congress, and it won't work for the
- insurance industry.
-
- >I have a Kaiser card. Despite the bad press accorded Kaiser from time to time,
- >I've received good care from them, and always see the same doctor when I need
- >one. I believe THIS is the form of a real health care solution.
-
- Kaiser gets bad press for a good reason. HMOs are an interesting idea,
- but in practice, they fall FAR short of their lofty goals of excellent
- care and low cost. My experience with HMOs has been that it is
- possible to get good care, if you tell the doctor what you want and
- insist on it.
-
- >I believe this is the form, or very close to it, of the future of medicine
- >(from a financial and organizational view) in the US. Its fair, it spreads
- >the burden of cost mostly onto the wealthy (big business),
-
- Business is wealthy, middle class, or poor. Business is business.
- Forcing businesses to pay for everything under the sun merely passes
- the cost on to the consumer.
-
- >I hope not to need medical assistance because of motorcycling in the future.
- >But if I do, and I end up in some emergency room far from home, the Kaiser
- >card in my wallet will eliminate any delay in receiving treatment.
-
- Perhaps. If you think it will eliminate delay in payment for that
- treatment, you have not received care outside of your assigned Kaiser
- clinic. HMOs have a bureaucracy to rival any insurance company's.
-
- ---
- Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
- Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM |and I showed him a picture of you. I said,
- DoD #0111 (919)460-8302 |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
- (The Grateful Dead) --> |It seemed like the least I could do...
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