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- From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
- Subject: Re: That T2 motorcycle jump... Not real, just magic
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- Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
- References: <C18BvG.F3v@inform.co.nz> <1993Jan22.163808.8887@znext.cts.com> <1993Jan22.211908.18333@news.columbia.edu>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:45:08 GMT
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- scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
-
- > Not that I have any doubt that the jump was faked, but... if this whole
- > thing was done with cages and cranes etc. and went at about the speed
- > you saw in the movie, why did they have someone other than Arnie on
- > the bike during the jump? It sounds like a pretty safe operation for
- > a stunt. What, he afraid he's going to break a nail?
-
- What makes you think that anybody was on the bike at all? They used both
- dummies and stuntmen in Arnie makeup for various shots. The infamous
- drop was done with a crane, but no cage. The crane suspended a
- horizontal boom, and cables ran from each end of the boom down to the
- bike. The crane just swept the bike forward off the edge of the canal,
- and the cable lowered the bike at a fairly rapid pace, not free-fall by
- any means, but certainly not the slow-motion that some have claimed. Or
- am I the only one here that saw the "making of" video? :-)
-
- Then once the bike touches the ground, they strike that setup, replace
- the Arnie-dummy with a stuntman, and the drop-bike with soft springs &
- spark makers (just guessing on this point :-) with a ridable bike, and
- spend the next day filming the next 5 minutes of screen time.
-
- Look at it closely the next time you watch it, there are a LOT of jump
- cuts and different camera angles in those few seconds from when the T-800
- approaches the edge of the canal to when it recovers from the "impact"
- and rides off. The trick is that we're so used to seeing jump cuts that
- we don't notice them any more, and we play along with the director and
- fool ourselves into seeing a single, smooth action.
-
- Another trick: in the scenes where John Conner was being chased, he was
- not riding the XR-80. There was a fancy motion rig (perhaps the "cage"
- that the article Alex quoted was thinking of) fastened to the bike, and
- the kid just sat there while a crew moved the bike from side to side
- while the whole rig drove down the LA River. If they'd shown the XR's
- lower half, you'd have seen the support mechanism.
-
- But then I don't know why anyone would expect realism in a movie that
- dubbed 2-stroke noises in for a 4-stroke like the XR. :-)
-
-
-
- PS, Arnie really did shoot all those cops in the leg, I heard it on the
- net.
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