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- From: sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges)
- Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
- Subject: Re: single vs. dual disk
- Message-ID: <30082@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 21:35:23 GMT
- References: <C11Knz.M4u@synoptics.com> <1993Jan22.144247.14951@cbnews.cb.att.com>
- Reply-To: sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges)
- Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
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- You guys have been hinting around at lots of discussion of dual vs single
- disks, but you must look a little deeper to find and answer. The question
- is not 'which are better' but instead.. 'how to best stop my bike??'
-
- A brake system is dependent on a number of things, and the one-time
- stopping ability will be affected by...
-
- number of disks
- diameter of disk(s)
- size of pads squeezing disk(s)
- pressure of pads, which is lever effort x mechanical advantage of system
- and size of wheel. (lets assume equal tire type/traction)
- (mechanical advantage of the system is the combination of the lever
- advantage and the ratio of the master cylinder/ slave cylinder)
-
- Now, there is the matter of the weight of the system, which is mostly
- unsprung, or else bigger brakes would be great. To reduce the weight,
- therefore, you might reduce the # of disks to 1 and recover the loss
- in braking ablility by increasing pad size and disk diameter.
-
- It is difficult to mess around too much with pad pressure as this is
- directly proportial to lever effort and lever travel. These two factors
- must fall with a very small range, (so that the lever is comfortable)
-
- The third and final consideration is to now expand the design to include
- multiple or long duration braking.... which means you must shed lots
- of heat. Two disks may be necessary for this, if the bike gets much
- over 350 lbs (and racetrack type braking, ie, lots of it, often)
-
- Note that many 250cc racers (bikes are 230 lbs, 160+ mph) use only one
- disk. All 500cc speed demons use two.
-
-
- >If you can lock the tire on the street you don't need any more brakes.
- I will agree with this if you add the phrase "predictably and
- repetatively"
-
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