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- From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
- Subject: Re: Engine theory 102 section 002
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.011931.3549@elektro.cmhnet.org>
- Keywords: pipes, jets, carbs, bleagh.
- Organization: Why do you suspect that?
- References: <FRAHM.24.0@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 01:19:31 GMT
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- In article <FRAHM.24.0@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU> FRAHM@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU (Joel A. Frahm) writes:
- > I'm wondering about a few things. One is, how come some mufflers
- >require rejetting and some don't? The F1 series mufflers 'require no
- >rejetting' or so they say. Perhaps that means they don't REQUIRE a
- >rejet, but it sure helps. I'm not really interested in replacing the
- >stock 4-1 on my FZ700. What I want to do is take the bike to Bonneville
- >when we bring the cars out there this spring, and run it too. I thought
- >I'd cut the stock muffler off and put a slip-on adapter on it, so
- >when I go to Utah I can pull off the can and put a straight extention on.
- >But I am concerned about running too lean as a result. I'm hoping to
- >get 160 mph out of the bike with no major modifications, other than
- >gears and exaust, but if the bike as a lean miss or something like that,
- >who knows? What is the difference between a pipe that requires a rejet,
- >and one that doesn't? Hype? Back pressure? I know I've had to rejet
- >my car after modifications like cam, headers, and the like but not
- >neccisarily for a muffler change. Anyone buy an F1 series muffler and
- >get it to run right with no jet change? Anyone run open exaust without
- >over lean condition?
- >
- >Joel.
- >
-
- The primary reason some exhaust system changes (not just mufflers) require
- intake mixture adjustment (carb jets, FI adjustment, chip change) is that
- the new exhaust system scavenges the cylinders differently thatn did the
- original one. For example:
-
- If the new system, or new muffler, is either less restrictive or it creates
- a different cylinder scavenging condition because of (usually) more
- optimal pipe tuning for the rev range where you want to run it, then this
- means that there is less exhaust back pressure in the cylinder when the intake
- valve opens, or even better, there is a higher partial vaccuum (sp?) in the
- cylinder when the intake valve opens. Either condition means you are going
- to pull more air through the intake system; the greater this effect, the
- greater the need to change jets, etc.
-
- If you don't require a rejet, your muffler change probably isn't making
- any difference on that end.
-
- You aren't as likely to see the effect in a car, because you don't normally
- have tuned headers on a car. Take the Porsche 911 before 1975 - it's a
- flat 6, 3 on each side. The exhaust is 3 equal length pipes joining at the
- same point about 12" before the muffler. This engine is VERY sensitive to
- muffler changes, and also to intake system changes. The usual effect that
- you create is to create huge flat spots - in a car like this or in a bike.
- Bikes are more likely to have a tuned pipe exhaust system, so will be
- more sensitive to muffler changes.
-
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