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- From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
- Subject: Re: Shred Avoidance
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.200727.12755@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
- References: <1993Jan27.144335.320@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:07:27 GMT
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- jackson@sn.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
-
- : I have been slowly solving 'shred' problems for HPR rockets.
- : One of the problems nowadays is the popularity of the ISP
- : reload motors. (Hopefully they will survive!)
- : But these babes are real stump pullers! I don't think any
- : of the ISP reloads have a burn time over 3 sec and I think
- : most are 1 to 2 sec. This delivers a double wammy of flight
- : load to the aero-surfaces sheer motor acceleration and induced
- : drag loading( since this all takes place close to the ground
- : the air density is higher).(Lord knows what Kosdon motors do!)
-
- If you want a hot motor - get a Teeling Technologies K-2300. That's
- right - over twice the average impulse of the notorious K-1100 rocket
- shredders. Or, how about a J-700 or a K-500? All these would do a
- good job of seriously stress testing your pet rocket.
-
- : Solving catastrophic failures I have done the following.
- : I don't fly craft paper tubing any more.
- : I don't fly with plywood fins.
- : I always fly with thu-the-wall fin mounting.
- :
- : For airframe I use only Phenolic and Fiberglass
- : and am testing the new carbon fiber composites.
-
- I think I am going to quit using phenolic - it is too brittle. I have
- found that a slight crack or scratch produces a serious weak point. I
- will stick to fiberglass or possibly carbon fiber construction.
-
- I have had no problem with plywood fins - however, I make them thicker
- than most people would. I get a bit more drag, but they seem to hold
- together better.
-
- : As alternative I have also used Aerotech fins.
- : These are beautifully molded (I am not sure out of
- : what) fins. I have Public Missiles cut slots in
- : their phenolic airframe and CA or Epoxy in the fins.
- : Makes a good looking rocket. However since you can't
- : fillet them they seem to be little weaker that filleted
- : fiber glass fins. Tho one could strengthen the fins with
- : 'channels' on the motor mount, such as on the Aerotech models.
-
- Why can't you add fillets? I saw nothing on my Initiator fins
- which would prohibit such an action. I would expect any molded
- plastic to be quite a bit weaker than fiberglass.
-
- Bill
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