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- From: maine@altair.dfrf.nasa.gov (Richard Maine)
- Subject: Re: Tracking
- In-Reply-To: det@sw.stratus.com's message of 26 Jan 93 15:34:24 GMT
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:30:36 GMT
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- Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu (Roger Wilfong) writes:
- > Kind of shoots hole in the 'X-form' parachutes don't drift as far a regular
- > parachutes theory. Doesn't it?
-
- Yes. I've long thought those claims "amusing." Actually I'd expect an
- X-form probably wouldn't drift as far as other parachutes of the same area
- for the simple reason that the drag is probably lower and thus the descent
- rate higher; of cource you could achive the same effect by just using a
- smaller chute.
-
- On 26 Jan 93 15:34:24 GMT, det@sw.stratus.com (David Toland) said:
- David> The assumption I don't exactly swallow is that a parachute will
- David> have a zero horizontal airspeed. This is not necessarily true,
- David> and could depend on the parachute geometry. If the parachute
- David> deforms in such a way as to maintain a particular airspeed,
- David> then you can have a ground speed that differs from the wind
- David> velocity.
-
- Yes, I was simplifying. That's what my qualification about "non-gliding"
- was intended to refer to. I was trying to avoid side issues. Even
- if the airspeed is non-zero, the important point is that it is that a
- given configuration will maintain a given airspeed, which is essentially
- independent of the wind velocity. For non-gliding chutes that airspeed
- happens to be 0, which simplifies the explanation, but doesn't really
- change the principle.
-
- David> Parachute oscillation and other factors can also delay reaching a
- David> steady state.
-
- True enough. Another simplification on my part. But I can't imagine
- any such delay being significant in terms of the total amount of drift.
-
- David> Of course, a parachute design that tends to damp oscillation quickly can
- David> sometimes permit a higher vertical velocity without damage to the model,
- David> so you can have less drift by reducing the time in the air. Just don't
- David> use it for parachute duration events.
-
- Agree. And if you have relatively high wind velocities (but still within
- flyable limits), a smaller chute can give you less damage to the model by
- minimizing the amount of dragging accross the lakebed (or whatever) after
- landing. I have had flights where much more damage was done by such
- dragging than by anything during the flight.
-
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- Richard Maine
- maine@altair.dfrf.nasa.gov
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