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- From: 1k1mgm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Christopher Gunn)
- Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
- Subject: Re: Has anyone used foam for roadbed?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.110847.46774@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 11:08:47 CST
- References: <1993Jan26.155252.3355@mcs.anl.gov>
- Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
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- In article <1993Jan26.155252.3355@mcs.anl.gov>, winans@xray.aps.anl.gov (John R. Winans) writes:
- > This stuff is pink and is NOT styrofoam. I think it has a silver
- > foil on one side and has the consistancy and strength of the expanding foam
- > that is marketed under names like "Great Stuff" and "Mountains in Minutes".
-
- The various blue, pink and white extruded foams are supposed to be
- the styrenes of choice for this sort of thing, as opposed to classic
- 'bead board,' which is cheap but has low structural strength. There's
- a company that I think is called Polyterrain that sells various water-
- soluble scenicking materials that has a booklet on using extruded foam.
- I think their basic recommendation was not to 'cookie-cutter' a layout
- but to build up terrain by laminating foam sections, holding them
- together with toothpicks while the glue dries.
-
- I'm not sure what's available in your area, but foam without the
- vapor barrier (foil) ought to be cheaper.
-
- > The only issue I am not sure of would be how to mount track. Foam can be a
- > strange animail when it comes to glues.
-
- A good-quality tacky aliphatic glue like Franklin's will work fine,
- although it will take longer to dry on double non-porous surfaces.
- For my (uncompleted) project along these lines, which used bead board,
- I glued cork roadbed to the foam with Franklin's and track to the cork
- the same way. I used Liquid Nails to attach the foam to a wood base,
- and it didn't seem to attack the foam much, but was hard to work with.
- The big-league recommendation for these applications (which I've read
- several places, none of which I now can cite) is water-based contact
- cement. I finally found some (after a long search), but haven't tried
- to use it yet. You'd think the ultimate solution for track would be rolls of
- double-sided foam tape (poster-mounting-type stuff) roadbed. I think
- there's a commercial product like this and there was an article in
- _Model Railroader_ a few (6, 7?) months ago on building a jig to cut
- your own from bulk foam tape.
-
- I've tried with mixed results to use various shapes of rasp-surfaced
- drill bits to rout out ditches and lowered terrain on bead board.
- This (a) makes a Gawd-awful mess and (b) leaves a surface that's
- not only fuzzy but (with bead board) too rough for N-scale dirt.
- I tried smoothing it with the only material I had readily on hand,
- which was Red Devil One-Step (or some name like that) instant spackle.
- The resulting 'composite' (bead board/lightweight spackle) turned out
- to be *remarkably* strong. Evidently the elasticities and hardnesses
- of these materials complement each other in some way. You might
- want to keep this in mind for small-scale usage; it's awfully
- expensive ($6/quart or so) for extensive coverage.
-
- Christopher Gunn Molecular Graphics and Modeling Lab
- SPAN--KUPHSX::GUNN Department of Medicinal Chemistry, Malott Hall
- 913-864-4428 or -4495 University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045
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